Article 09-07-19 Dailydot cancels Yaniv -

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Why do they have to say that he's not transgender?
I've said this before, but: by the rules they've set out, he's trans. Because he says it, and for this loud, obnoxious minority of troons and troon enablers, that's all that you have to do.

So they deny he's trans because he makes them all look bad, but also is a living demonstration of the inherent faults in making your gender a personal preference rather than a biological directive. If you can just say that you're a woman and it's true, then Yaniv is a trans woman. And if Yaniv is a trans woman, then the non-zealots will look at his behaviour and think, 'So any man can just say he's a woman and gain access to women's spaces? Attempt to force women to touch his balls? Go into womens' bathrooms and strike up conversations with girls about their vaginas? And if you find any of this behaviour upsetting, invasive or offensive, then you are the one who gets in trouble? Well, that's not right.'

So it's very important for the tucute troons that Yaniv not be associated with them, because he's the embodiment of peak trans. Which is why it's very important that Yaniv is permanently associated with being trans, so everyone can see that it's not some false slippery slope argument or reductio ad absurdum what all these people, primarily women, have been saying about the dangers of self-identification. Here is a man, taking advantage of the system, gleefully using troondom as a weapon, and doing it for personal gain and sexual pleasure.

But he's the monster they've created. So I do enjoy people forcing them to live up to the rules they've set, and pointing out that gatekeeping him from troondom - gatekeeping being something they describe as an inherent evil that is killing millions of troons a day - is hypocrisy of the highest order.

Yaniv's trans. And I hope these people choke on it.
 

A Pare A Teeth

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@DrRockzosNose said on the main thread

look's like Yaniv is becoming a big topic again on Reddit since the DailyDot article


look's like Yaniv is becoming a big topic again on Reddit since the DailyDot article

Eta: apparently not waxing "girl dicks" is the same as refusing service to black people?
Cross referencing for info.
 

Second Hand Syringe

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It seems to me that the LGBT "community" can't decide what they do and do not stand for, and so that makes things very interesting for Yaniv.
Dave Chappelle had a good piece on this in his latest stand up for netflix. It's worth watching. Basically the LGBT et al. movement is several movements flying under the same flag. For example, the male/gay movement differs from the lesbians in some regards, which differs from bisexual activism. The weirdos in the trans movement have their own battles specific to them that might not apply to the other groups under the rainbow flag. The trans movement itself can be broken down into several distinct categories which further complicates the matter.

Basically you have a bunch of individual movements with enough similar undercurrents that they were able to team up together for the sake of increasing influence and solidarity among otherwise isolated and less socially effectual groups. This is why some issues seem fragmented among different actors in the LGBT movement.
 

HollaGemini

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I've said this before, but: by the rules they've set out, he's trans. Because he says it, and for this loud, obnoxious minority of troons and troon enablers, that's all that you have to do.

So they deny he's trans because he makes them all look bad, but also is a living demonstration of the inherent faults in making your gender a personal preference rather than a biological directive. If you can just say that you're a woman and it's true, then Yaniv is a trans woman. And if Yaniv is a trans woman, then the non-zealots will look at his behaviour and think, 'So any man can just say he's a woman and gain access to women's spaces? Attempt to force women to touch his balls? Go into womens' bathrooms and strike up conversations with girls about their vaginas? And if you find any of this behaviour upsetting, invasive or offensive, then you are the one who gets in trouble? Well, that's not right.'

So it's very important for the tucute troons that Yaniv not be associated with them, because he's the embodiment of peak trans. Which is why it's very important that Yaniv is permanently associated with being trans, so everyone can see that it's not some false slippery slope argument or reductio ad absurdum what all these people, primarily women, have been saying about the dangers of self-identification. Here is a man, taking advantage of the system, gleefully using troondom as a weapon, and doing it for personal gain and sexual pleasure.

But he's the monster they've created. So I do enjoy people forcing them to live up to the rules they've set, and pointing out that gatekeeping him from troondom - gatekeeping being something they describe as an inherent evil that is killing millions of troons a day - is hypocrisy of the highest order.

Yaniv's trans. And I hope these people choke on it.
I couldnt agree more, "And I hope these people choke on it" pretty much sums up how I feel about it all. And hes there to stay, he puts the T in LGBT.
The argument made before all this shit was passed wasnt hard to grasp: "PEOPLE WILL EXPLOIT THIS!!!". "WHO WOULD EVEN DO THAT?!‽" nek minnit Jonathan Yaniv.
Demanding these people live by the rules they forced through will not teach the lunatics a lesson, but watching them not being able to burn what turns out to be an ACTUAL witch is very, very funny to me. Metaphorically, hes walking around throwing curses on people, sacroficing children, banging goats, hexing people and doing Satanic rituals in front of the entire town, but nobody is allowed to call him a witch because its against their own rules KEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Being able to "cry trans" has tangible benefits, from athletic to predatory advantages, and I cant believe people seriously didnt think anybody would exploit them.
The thought of Yaniv achieving some form of molestation is horrifying, but that ink is DRY, theres not a whole lot that can be done, trans people are actual "protected class".
 

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Basically you have a bunch of individual movements with enough similar undercurrents that they were able to team up together for the sake of increasing influence and solidarity among otherwise isolated and less socially effectual groups. This is why some issues seem fragmented among different actors in the LGBT movement.
This is... Really very untrue though. It was always the gay and lesbian movement. Then bisexuals cried until they were let in because "we're half gay!" but a good chunk of the reason they weren't there in the first place is that bisexuals don't understand gay issues because they are basically heterosexual. They literally didn't need the movement at the beginning. So they started fucking things up and acting like it was their movement all along and gays were biphobic for pointing out they are basically straight. Then the trannies came along and saw what the bi people had been doing and said, "Hey! Us too! And also your transphobic!" and the bi people and trannies teamed up against the gays. And thus, gays and lesbians were effectively pushed out of their own movement by heterospecials and they're still mad to this day.

THIS is why it seems fragmented. Literally never did these groups all get together and decide it was better/more effective to work together. Literally never. And it's not nearly more effective anyway and anyone can see that.

Dave Chappelle is a funny guy but he doesn't know shit about gay history and tbh, if you get your serious historical information from comedy specials, well...
 

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Being able to "cry trans" has tangible benefits, from athletic to predatory advantages, and I cant believe people seriously didnt think anybody would exploit them.
this is the Achilles heel of progressive politics in general - it assumes everyone is as wealthy, educated and otherwise virtuous as the people preaching it, and always fails to account for the dickhead factor of humanity
 

Patricia Highsmith

Getting away with murder.
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this is the Achilles heel of progressive politics in general - it assumes everyone is as wealthy, educated and otherwise virtuous as the people preaching it, and always fails to account for the dickhead factor of humanity
The wealthy and educated have always exercised a predatory advantage. They lobby for change and drive a self interest truck through any legislative gaps. The hoi polloi found a low cost entry point and are now driving their mobility scooters through the gaps.
 

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There's a beautiful prescience in the "thing that never happens" happening. It's been interesting watching the woke-trans allies try to cognitive dissonance their way out of this one. I think the best push back whenever they pull the "but he's not really trans!" is to just calmly repeat "But whoever says they're trans, is." I think that single illogical foible is creating a lot of pushback already.
 

Short Stack

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There's a beautiful prescience in the "thing that never happens" happening. It's been interesting watching the woke-trans allies try to cognitive dissonance their way out of this one. I think the best push back whenever they pull the "but he's not really trans!" is to just calmly repeat "But whoever says they're trans, is." I think that single illogical foible is creating a lot of pushback already.
They just can't handle the "told U it would happen"
 

HollaGemini

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There's a beautiful prescience in the "thing that never happens" happening. It's been interesting watching the woke-trans allies try to cognitive dissonance their way out of this one. I think the best push back whenever they pull the "but he's not really trans!" is to just calmly repeat "But whoever says they're trans, is." I think that single illogical foible is creating a lot of pushback already.
This.
Now that we are seeing trans athletes crushing the competition from school to olympic level, its more important than ever to remind these people of their own rules. I dont think it will achieve anything other than laughs from people like us, but thats all that can be done, they worked themselves into this grave.
In my opinion, they threw out the ladder with the whole "this man still has a penis BUT HES A WOMAN, EVEN WITH A PENIS!!!!!!" that was it for me.
Reasoning with these people is like trying to reason with a smart mouthed entitled 13 year old. No respect for you, your family, your experiences, all they want to do is scream and blame everything on you. All we can do is take a few steps back and laugh at their tantrums theyre now finally throwing at eachother instead of us. The only people who listen to those people are those people.

Edit: This sound corny, but strength will prevail eventually. Weakness cant hold onto ANYTHING for long, it doesnt have the strength. Their arguments are collapsing in on themselves.
 

The Unknown Mother Goose

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this is the Achilles heel of progressive politics in general - it assumes everyone is as wealthy, educated and otherwise virtuous as the people preaching it, and always fails to account for the dickhead factor of humanity
Seems to be an almost comically long trend with this kind of thing.

Yaniv’s just a very public example of why that Pollyanna-esque worldview isn’t going to work in reality. There’s been others before her, and there’ll very likely be others after her unless something changes.
 

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I thought I was gonna open this thread and read that the trans community, wanting to distance itself from a clear sexual predator, has disowned Yaniv and condemned his use of “sexual activism” like a shield under which he can molest underage girls and jack off to them using tampons.

After all, who would want to be associated with this gelatinous child-diddler with a bizarre vaginal hygiene fetish?

But no. It wasn’t the topless pool party with 12-year-olds that offended them, nor was it the DM screenshots of him perving on 14-year-olds.

Instead, they take issue with Yaniv’s “problematic” statements about immigrants and people from Southeast Asia, almost making it seem as if he’s a right winger.

These fucking people.
 

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It's fucking hilarious that the cultural climate is so fucked up that an obviously mentally demented fake trans child molester that fakes having disabilities like yaniv has to be cancelled for being racist instead of being called out for the obvious issue of being a fake trans child molesting munchie that fakes disabilities.

Everyone was waiting for any reason to chuck yaniv but was too chickenshit to just call a spade a spade.
every time they call him "she" I cringe
 

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every time they call him "she" I cringe
It's better than Yaniv's a she. Because it means they're having to accept she's trans. It's annoying in the way that some people will instantly dismiss whatever evidence you have if you don't gender him correctly, but I personally have that annoyance outweighed by the way that Yaniv's troondom puts a firm dagger into a lot of the mindless acceptance of troon ideology that many well-meaning people have. They haven't thought through the consequences of nearly anything the troons are fighting for; Yaniv makes them have to do that.
 

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There's a beautiful prescience in the "thing that never happens" happening. It's been interesting watching the woke-trans allies try to cognitive dissonance their way out of this one. I think the best push back whenever they pull the "but he's not really trans!" is to just calmly repeat "But whoever says they're trans, is." I think that single illogical foible is creating a lot of pushback already.
If Yaniv isn’t trans, where do you draw the line? I don’t think you can, without excluding the vast majority of trans-identifying people.
 

Gustav Schuchardt

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If Yaniv isn’t trans, where do you draw the line? I don’t think you can, without excluding the vast majority of trans-identifying people.
All my 'woke' friends are worrying about this and I'm recommending 'heterodox pre-war German socialist philosophers like Alfred Rosenberg' to them on the grounds that some radical new solutions are needed to find a final solution to the Trans Question.

To be honest they mostly block me but some have said they'll look into it. Once I get them to read Rosenberg I then talk to them about 'innovative German doctors working at Tiergartenstraße 4 who discovered a treatment which had a 100% cure rate for aberrant sexual impulses'.
 

King Joffrey

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If Yaniv isn’t trans, where do you draw the line? I don’t think you can, without excluding the vast majority of trans-identifying people.
There is no line.

I’ve seen men with five o’clock shadows, wearing men’s clothing, speaking in distinctly male voices; who insist they’re “trans women,” or “just women” as they like to say now. (Because nowadays it’s impolitic and “problematic” to make any distinction between actual women and men in dresses.)

All someone has to do is declare themselves a woman or a man, and everyone else is compelled to humor that delusion.
 
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