2020 Coronavirus Merch Run -

Leonard Helplessness

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I called and spoke to their general risk guy, who said that 'due to a number of factors within the parameters of what they look for in risk', they were forced to do it.
This line is particularly vexing. They were not "forced to do it." There are neither laws nor regulations requiring them to do this; if any existed then the company would have cited them. This was internal bureaucratic horseshit; them saying they were "forced" to shut down your payment processing is akin to saying that Chloe Sagal was "forced" to douse himself in flammable liquid, light a match, and transition from a metaphorical human trashfire into a literal one. This company's decision is theirs and theirs alone and they're feigning blamelessness through corporate rules and procedures that they themselves invented and refuse to disclose.

For shit like credit approval, banks are required to provide a fuckton of supporting documentation upon demand if they decline you; the laws about this exist to prevent banks from arbitrating who gets to have a home and so forth. Payment processing appears to be a grayer area for the moment and is a popular way for banks to govern which businesses are and are not permitted to exist. The business owner is on too many blockbots? Fuck you, you don't get to accept payments over the internet.
 

HumanHive

Human behavior is exceptional behavior.
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This line is particularly vexing. They were not "forced to do it." There are neither laws nor regulations requiring them to do this; if any existed then the company would have cited them. This was internal bureaucratic horseshit; them saying they were "forced" to shut down your payment processing is akin to saying that Chloe Sagal was "forced" to douse himself in flammable liquid, light a match, and transition from a metaphorical human trashfire into a literal one. This company's decision is theirs and theirs alone and they're feigning blamelessness through corporate rules and procedures that they themselves invented and refuse to disclose.

For shit like credit approval, banks are required to provide a fuckton of supporting documentation upon demand if they decline you; the laws about this exist to prevent banks from arbitrating who gets to have a home and so forth. Payment processing appears to be a grayer area for the moment and is a popular way for banks to govern which businesses are and are not permitted to exist. The business owner is on too many blockbots? Fuck you, you don't get to accept payments over the internet.
What's unfortunate is that legislation closing these loopholes is unlikely, but various forms of harassment through courts and "civil rights" laws are eventually going to ensure only one kind of political opinion is tolerated among business owners.
 
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Null

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It was then that he realised he fucked up.

Hope you enjoy Serbia though.
They **DEMANDED** a home address. They DEMANDED to know where I live and what my utilities for that address were. I gave them my driver's license, voting record, birth certificate, college diploma, passport, my other passport. I showed them the incorporation documents, my order with Blue Gem for the server, my contracts with the datacenter, records of previous purchases, my receipt from the last time I did a merch run. I told them you could call any number for any billing details out of the 650 orders and get someone on the other line who is probably heavily autistic but able to confirm they bought a fucking shirt.

"WE NEED A GAS BILL FOR YOUR CURRENT RESIDENCE." And even then, I show them my electric bill on top of my birth certificate and next to my U.S. Passports with the U.S. Department of State seal on them to wave any fucking doubt that is a place where an American lives and they still go

"oh he lives overseas... ... wow this is probably sex terrorism or something..."
 

tripmix

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They **DEMANDED** a home address. They DEMANDED to know where I live and what my utilities for that address were. I gave them my driver's license, voting record, birth certificate, college diploma, passport, my other passport. I showed them the incorporation documents, my order with Blue Gem for the server, my contracts with the datacenter, records of previous purchases, my receipt from the last time I did a merch run. I told them you could call any number for any billing details out of the 650 orders and get someone on the other line who is probably heavily autistic but able to confirm they bought a fucking shirt
Sounds like you dialled dynastia by accident. Please check the number and call again.
 

CWCissey

Charming Man
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What kind of monster drinks Coke Z.ero willingly? (One day I'll remember the filters.)

 

AmarettoPie

Definitely not poisonous.
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What was the nature of the unprofessional call?
I've bought stuff from a French gaming company many, MANY times over the years, and every time I do, I get a call from my bank because I guess giving money to France is suspicious they're racist against the French it's protocol or something. If I manage to answer this call, the person on the other end always, always, ALWAYS has this freaked-out tone, no matter the branch (I guess they're not used to these kinda alerts popping up). And if I don't answer, they lock the card and leave an automated message or text so I can call back and confirm the transaction and unlock said card. Normal stuff.

Well, this branch isn't in my cell, but the number looked familiar so I answered. I say hello. The guy on the other end doesn't introduce himself or where he's from, just says my name. Since he has that freaked-out tone of voice (I can hear a lady in the background that sounds nervous as well) and I have no idea who the fuck it is, I don't confirm or deny my identity and just ask who's speaking. ...They hang up on me.

I look up the number, see it's the bank closest to me, so I call back a couple times because my money's pretty fucking important. They don't answer. I slowly realize what the call might've been, shrug it off because it's so common for me at this point, and I wait a couple hours for message. I don't get one. I assume my card is locked so I call the automated line to unlock it. There's no message/it doesn't default to the unlocking menu; I use my card later with no issue.

So mainly I'm just peeved that they saw what might've been an issue, one serious enough to call me right away, but somehow didn't find it serious enough to leave a message/text, answer their damn phone, talk to me when they had me on the phone the first bloody time, or take preventative measures (locking the card).

On the humorous side, ignoring incompetence, this means that my bank is more willing to give money to the Farms than to France.
 

Polyboros2

Is dumb and lost Polyboros password
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I've bought stuff from a French gaming company many, MANY times over the years, and every time I do, I get a call from my bank because I guess giving money to France is suspicious they're racist against the French it's protocol or something. If I manage to answer this call, the person on the other end always, always, ALWAYS has this freaked-out tone, no matter the branch (I guess they're not used to these kinda alerts popping up). And if I don't answer, they lock the card and leave an automated message or text so I can call back and confirm the transaction and unlock said card. Normal stuff.

Well, this branch isn't in my cell, but the number looked familiar so I answered. I say hello. The guy on the other end doesn't introduce himself or where he's from, just says my name. Since he has that freaked-out tone of voice (I can hear a lady in the background that sounds nervous as well) and I have no idea who the fuck it is, I don't confirm or deny my identity and just ask who's speaking. ...They hang up on me.

I look up the number, see it's the bank closest to me, so I call back a couple times because my money's pretty fucking important. They don't answer. I slowly realize what the call might've been, shrug it off because it's so common for me at this point, and I wait a couple hours for message. I don't get one. I assume my card is locked so I call the automated line to unlock it. There's no message/it doesn't default to the unlocking menu; I use my card later with no issue.

So mainly I'm just peeved that they saw what might've been an issue, one serious enough to call me right away, but somehow didn't find it serious enough to leave a message/text, answer their damn phone, talk to me when they had me on the phone the first bloody time, or take preventative measures (locking the card).

On the humorous side, ignoring incompetence, this means that my bank is more willing to give money to the Farms than to France.

I had the same thing from renting a Minecraft Realms server to play with my future wife.

This was after they were owned by Microsoft, yet still charged through Sweden or whatever socialist country Notch came from.
 
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Safir

目が覚めて落ちぶれろ
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About a decade ago, my bank signed me up for a SMS payment service (tellers got paid $2 for each signup - I'd noticed, went in person to the central branch office to unsub, and then they signed me up again), through which I was instantly e-robbed (lost $1000).
Me: "It wasn't me. Give me my money back."
Them: "It was you. No we won't."
Me: "Ok, tell me where I sent it."
Them: "No we won't, it would infringe on the scammer's privacy."
 

Pepito The Cat

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"oh he lives overseas... ... wow this is probably sex terrorism or something..."
It is sex terrorism but that's besides the point. You just want to sell some god damn merch items with a cutesy animal taking a bath and wearing a funny mask. It feels like America's entrepreneurship is dead and rotting face down in a swamp of ideologies made of 280 characters or less.

One of the notorious autistic individuals here called me "Ameriwoo" once and he was right but shit like this makes me appreciate my shithole.
 
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