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    1. Thanks to @MarvinTheParanoidAndroid for posting the article, but I'll try to summarize since Wikipedia can be autistically wordy. I recognize I have a layman's understanding of the situation, so someone can correct me if I say something exceptional.

      Net neutrality is legislation that forces ISPs to not give preferential treatment to delivering any certain type of data to its customers. An example of the sort of thing NN would allegedly fix is IPSs throttling competing streaming media services like Netflix to encourage their own digital media service.

      The libertarian argument against NN is that the free market will correct the ISPs if they get out of line. NN just puts arbitrary restrictions on what companies in the private sector can do, and may even put the US government in a position to muck with the internet at large.

      The arguments for NN range from the socialized ('Internet should be a government-provided utility anyway') to the cynical ('ISPs are too powerful and swat down competition, NN is necessary as a band-aid')
       
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    2. Thinking that corporations would ever look out for you and “do the right thing” when there’s money to be made is pure :autism:
       
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    3. this is exactly why it's gonna suck - too bad this is something worth causing actual rebel activity against, instead of whining on social media, which is what millenials would rather do, instead of properly fighting back.
       
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    4. And come the 14th, they'll not be able to do that.

      And I don't know if that's going to be a bad thing, or a secret blessing in disguise.
       
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    5. To get a bit pedantic, it's not actually the TYPE of data. ISPs have always prioritized certain types of data and this is actually necessary to ensure quality of service. For instance, if you used to have an ISP that could only deliver 2400 baud modem service, you obviously had to de-prioritize stuff like video or people who constantly downloaded at full capacity, so that your other customers got the stuff like text from Usenet or email that they wanted and were paying for.

      Net neutrality is not about the type of data. There is always high bandwidth crap that has to be throttled to some degree just to keep the series of tubes working.

      It's about it being neutral as to the source. ISPs should not get to be treated as common carriers and at the same time censor sources just because they're business competitors, any more than the phone company can't turn off your phone service because you said something in favor of Trump when you were talking to your mom and they were spying on you.

      There are actually foundational documents about the Internet and how it works, that go back to the '60s, that are called RFCs (Requests for Comment). They're basically the Federalist Papers of the Internet. If you want to know why the Internet works the way it does and how it got this way, read some.
       
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    6. lol your parents obviously pay for your internet
       
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    7. If only! You must be lucky.
       
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    8. Don't see how that has to do with NN being total bullshit for matters that are just pulled out of nowhere, but whatever.
       
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    9. it'll make sense when people who have to pay extra for the extra internet access have to pay for extra internet access. and once people who don't care about such things because they are not involved in household finances eventually do have to deal with finances then it'll make sense
       
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    10. I guess.

      I just wonder what KF's official stance on it is.
       
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    11. So far, it seems an overwhelming “Net Neutrality Good” with some :autism: in between. You can read Null’s own thoughts here:

      Upcoming vote on Net Neutrality laws
       
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    12. I pay for both my internet and the internet of my family back home, but none of that implies that I understand the issue or what is involved. Figured it didn't hurt to ask about what I didn't know. I manage the finances of multiple households. I can't keep up with every shift in Congress. As I said, I'm dumb.
       
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    13. it would be exactly the same as it is now because all of the bad stuff it was supposed to prevent is already happening indirectly

      you cant win a battle you already lost a long time ago
       
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    14. This whole fucking thread.
       
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    15. Law in the United States is kayfabe. Pure theatre. The topic of 'net neutrality' is a waste of everyone's time. The mega-corporations will do whatever they want until you stop paying income tax. I do not know why our country attempts to entertain its citizens with abjectly stupid shit like 'net neutrality' bills. Maybe those in power just want another thing to masturbate to. Perhaps they just want to be reminded that they have power over a country of effeminate, mentally disabled faggots.
       
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    16. Actually, yes it has.

       
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    17. The Philippines isn't real. They just pump hallucinogens into the plane and start playing Idiocracy on loop.
       
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    18. I want to believe, Scully.
       
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