Alfred Kinsey - Father of the Sexual Revolution [Historical Perspective]

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Pictured below is Alfred Charles Kinsey, the man known today--by those who do know him--as the "Father of the Sexual Revolution", the man whose work changed the world.
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He even had his own movie made about him starring Liam Neeson:
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However, you might be more familiar with the name from the "Kinsey Scale", a sort of sexual fluidity scale from staunchly heterosexual to overtly homosexual, arguably a sort of precursor to the notion of gender fluidity we have today.
Kinsey Scale of Sexual Behavior.jpg

This kind of thing, like much of Kinsey's research, is taught in Gender Studies classes and other realms of academia. Kinsey's work also informs public school Sex Ed and even legal cases, especially cases relating to criminal sexual behavior.

Alfred Kinsey is one of the chief impetuses of much of America's, and the world's thereby, revised understanding of sexuality. A studied sexologist and zoologist, he founded his own institute in the 1940's after noteworthy professorship at the same university where he received his PhD. His interest in studying the intricacies of human sexuality burgeoned, as did his own radical views, views like "abstinence until marriage is psychologically harmful". According to his Wikipedia entry it seems it was around this time that he caught the eye of a certain philanthropic organization which would not only fund new research from Kinsey but would go on to bolster him and his work across the country, even helping it be introduced into the American legal system, as previously mentioned.
Although the Kinsey Institute's history page mentions only the "Committee for Research in Problems of Sex" (CRPS), the true origin source of Kinsey's support came from the Rockefeller Foundation.

You can find more information like this readily on the Kinsey Institute's page dedicated to its founder's history and the aforementioned Wikipedia entry, but what neither (let alone most other articles and sites) are inclined to mention is that among Kinsey's most widely studied and noteworthy books of research--namely "Sexual Behavior in the Human Male" and "Sexual Behavior in the Human Female"--was something obscenely dark. It was not the spurious or even manufactured data regarding certain sexual proclivities or the false statistical tendencies to homosexuality among men. No, it was an emphasis on child sexual behavior in ages as young as only months old--propositions supported by data collected not just from known pedophiles but even from one of the most prolific child rapists in the history of Berlin, a high ranking literal Nazi named Fritz von Balluseck.
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New York Times article link. Archive link.

Kinsey would also associate with men like Kenneth Anger who not only participated in and helped film pornographic materials for Kinsey's studies but was an "avant-garde" filmmaker who was known as a Satanist, despite him saying he was not one in this article from the Guardian (Archive, preferred for full article).
Below is a picture of Kenneth Anger:
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At one point Kinsey and a younger Anger had gone to Thelema Abbey, a small house in Sicily which had been founded by Alistair Crowley as a Satanic temple, pictured below (viewing art, after Crowley's death):
Alfred Kinsey Crowley temple Satanism.jpg


Alfred Kinsey would go throughout America with speaking engagements to talk about his noteworthy "Kinsey Reports" (the aforementioned "Sexual Behavior" research books) and how they can help people better accept and grow comfortable with their sexuality, starting even from infancy. He would argue that child sexuality was nothing to be ashamed of, that children having orgasms was natural and proved their sexual inclination, and that no psychological damage came from inter-age sexual intercourse. Although, all of this about children remained heavily under-discussed. Instead the talks, interviews and accolades referred mainly to his research in adult men and women. Kinsey's image was, and in many parts still is, as highly regarded as it was highly influential, even influencing Playboy founder Hugh Hefner, whose publication began roughly around 1953, not long after Kinsey's reports were first becoming widespread.

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With regards to the data on childhood sexuality in Kinsey's reports, his Wikipedia entry states "Little attention was paid to this part of Kinsey's research at the time, but where Kinsey had gained this information began to be questioned nearly 40 years later." However, this is a flat out falsehood, as there were in fact questions regarding his highly controversial studies and their sources from the beginning. However criticism of Kinsey is best known to become popularized after one of Kinsey's most vocal critics, Dr. Judith Ann Reisman (the presumed "founder of the anti-Kinsey movement" according to her Wikipedia entry) became a noted public figure, appearing on television and major networks to expose Kinsey and his work. She would spend most of her life dedicated to showing how his research was born from and encouraged child sexual abuse, as well as how it was not just changing society but also legislature and educational curriculum.

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Reisman began on her crusade against Kinsey and his research after her daughter was molested and, due to trauma, slipped into "deep depression" only to die fifteen years later from brain aneurysm, which she curiously blamed on her daughter's earlier sexual trauma. She held a presentation for the FBI to investigate the rise in sexually violent cases, particularly regarding children, and its potential correlation with rising pornographic magazines like Playboy and Hustler, wherein she discovered that not only did the major pornographic magazines employ repeatedly incestuous, underage or outright violent sexual cartoons regarding children but even had nude photoshoots of actual children (as well as the phenomenon of "barely legal" and women dressed up as young girls).

This, too, she would tie back to Kinsey's research, and when one of the founders of these magazines (Hefner) had taken to the title of being "Kinsey's Pamphleteer", even referring to Kinsey's publication as "the other great book", it may be difficult not to see a correlation. However, due to her religious beliefs and particular view of these things coming from Satanism and its "do what thou wilt" philosophy, she is not always taken seriously.

Below is a succinct video about Kinsey and the presumed effects of his research with clips from a documentary which interviews Dr. Reisman and others.

The full documentary is nearly 3hrs and pores over with great detail (and conservative and religious leanings, with minor cinematic flare for its budget) much of what was written here and even more, replete with citations. The full documentary is on Youtube and will be linked at the bottom of this post for those interested.

TL;DR Public school Sex Ed would not exist without Kinsey. Many of the laws which decrease the penalties of soliciting minors and other pedophilic crimes were influenced by legal citations to Kinsey's studies. Kinsey's research underpins almost every aspect of medical and scientific study today, biological and psychological, when it comes to human sexual behaviors. Without Kinsey there would be no widespread acceptance of extramarital sex and alternative sexual lifestyles, little if any tolerance for pornography, no LGBT movement, no John Money, no Transgenderism and "Gender" notions today and so on.
We likely would not even have OnlyFans.

Ultimately Alfred Kinsey's work--provably fallacious in many aspects and further proven to be informed by actual pedophiles, one of which seemingly being a Nazi officer with whom Kinsey was not only in correspondence but, it's said, was actively encouraging him to catalog his acts in diaries for his research--has helped change not just America but the entire world for generations to come.

Full Documentary: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aJ0JQGoAz4w or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ0JQGoAz4w

Alfred Kinsey, much like Hugh Henfer, was not Jewish.
 

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Without Kinsey there would be no widespread acceptance of extramarital sex
Kinsey if often quoted by the degenerates of adultery communities as a justification for their cheating and sexual addictions.
"According to Kinsey it's normal to have sex x times a week in a marriage, see I'm not a sex addict, clearly there's something wrong with my spouse not me".

About time someone made a thread on this creepy fuck. Good thread OP.

Regarding age of consent laws
Another person who was involved in lowering the age of consent laws of her time was Simone Beauvior and her intellectual friends.

She also lost her teaching license because she'd seduce/procure students for her boyfriend, Sartre.
In 1943, Beauvoir was suspended from her teaching position when she was accused of seducing her 17-year-old lycée pupil Natalie Sorokine in 1939.[37] Sorokine's parents laid formal charges against Beauvoir for debauching a minor (the age of consent in France at the time was 15[citation needed]), and Beauvoir's license to teach in France was revoked, although it was subsequently reinstated.
From wikipedia

A personal obscure cow of mine who is a big fan of Kinsey has a friend who loves to write about children's sexuality. From his wikipedia page (source/archive)
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Kenneth Anger's angle fyi is he thinks Satan and Lucifer are two different entities.

Yeah, Kenneth Anger is not a Satanist, he's a Thelemite. Same goes for Aleister Crowley. Personally, I think Thelema is a bunch of edgy woo but it's not the same as Satanism.


Pictured below is Alfred Charles Kinsey, the man known today--by those who do know him--as the "Father of the Sexual Revolution", the man whose work changed the world.
View attachment 2075012 He even had his own movie made about him starring Liam Neeson: View attachment 2075085
However, you might be more familiar with the name from the "Kinsey Scale", a sort of sexual fluidity scale from staunchly heterosexual to overtly homosexual, arguably a sort of precursor to the notion of gender fluidity we have today.
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This kind of thing, like much of Kinsey's research, is taught in Gender Studies classes and other realms of academia. Kinsey's work also informs public school Sex Ed and even legal cases, especially cases relating to criminal sexual behavior.

Alfred Kinsey is one of the chief impetuses of much of America's, and the world's thereby, revised understanding of sexuality. A studied sexologist and zoologist, he founded his own institute in the 1940's after noteworthy professorship at the same university where he received his PhD. His interest in studying the intricacies of human sexuality burgeoned, as did his own radical views, views like "abstinence until marriage is psychologically harmful". According to his Wikipedia entry it seems it was around this time that he caught the eye of a certain philanthropic organization which would not only fund new research from Kinsey but would go on to bolster him and his work across the country, even helping it be introduced into the American legal system, as previously mentioned.
Although the Kinsey Institute's history page mentions only the "Committee for Research in Problems of Sex" (CRPS), the true origin source of Kinsey's support came from the Rockefeller Foundation.

You can find more information like this readily on the Kinsey Institute's page dedicated to its founder's history and the aforementioned Wikipedia entry, but what neither (let alone most other articles and sites) are inclined to mention is that among Kinsey's most widely studied and noteworthy books of research--namely "Sexual Behavior in the Human Male" and "Sexual Behavior in the Human Female"--was something obscenely dark. It was not the spurious or even manufactured data regarding certain sexual proclivities or the false statistical tendencies to homosexuality among men. No, it was an emphasis on child sexual behavior in ages as young as only months old--propositions supported by data collected not just from known pedophiles but even from one of the most prolific child rapists in the history of Berlin, a high ranking literal Nazi named Fritz von Balluseck.
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New York Times article link. Archive link.

Kinsey would also associate with men like Kenneth Anger who not only participated in and helped film pornographic materials for Kinsey's studies but was an "avant-garde" filmmaker who was known as a Satanist, despite him saying he was not one in this article from the Guardian (Archive, preferred for full article).
Below is a picture of Kenneth Anger:
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At one point Kinsey and a younger Anger had gone to Thelema Abbey, a small house in Sicily which had been founded by Alistair Crowley as a Satanic temple, pictured below (viewing art, after Crowley's death):
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Alfred Kinsey would go throughout America with speaking engagements to talk about his noteworthy "Kinsey Reports" (the aforementioned "Sexual Behavior" research books) and how they can help people better accept and grow comfortable with their sexuality, starting even from infancy. He would argue that child sexuality was nothing to be ashamed of, that children having orgasms was natural and proved their sexual inclination, and that no psychological damage came from inter-age sexual intercourse. Although, all of this about children remained heavily under-discussed. Instead the talks, interviews and accolades referred mainly to his research in adult men and women. Kinsey's image was, and in many parts still is, as highly regarded as it was highly influential, even influencing Playboy founder Hugh Hefner, whose publication began roughly around 1953, not long after Kinsey's reports were first becoming widespread.

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With regards to the data on childhood sexuality in Kinsey's reports, his Wikipedia entry states "Little attention was paid to this part of Kinsey's research at the time, but where Kinsey had gained this information began to be questioned nearly 40 years later." However, this is a flat out falsehood, as there were in fact questions regarding his highly controversial studies and their sources from the beginning. However criticism of Kinsey is best known to become popularized after one of Kinsey's most vocal critics, Dr. Judith Ann Reisman (the presumed "founder of the anti-Kinsey movement" according to her Wikipedia entry) became a noted public figure, appearing on television and major networks to expose Kinsey and his work. She would spend most of her life dedicated to showing how his research was born from and encouraged child sexual abuse, as well as how it was not just changing society but also legislature and educational curriculum.

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Reisman began on her crusade against Kinsey and his research after her daughter was molested and, due to trauma, slipped into "deep depression" only to die fifteen years later from brain aneurysm, which she curiously blamed on her daughter's earlier sexual trauma. She held a presentation for the FBI to investigate the rise in sexually violent cases, particularly regarding children, and its potential correlation with rising pornographic magazines like Playboy and Hustler, wherein she discovered that not only did the major pornographic magazines employ repeatedly incestuous, underage or outright violent sexual cartoons regarding children but even had nude photoshoots of actual children (as well as the phenomenon of "barely legal" and women dressed up as young girls).

This, too, she would tie back to Kinsey's research, and when one of the founders of these magazines (Hefner) had taken to the title of being "Kinsey's Pamphleteer", even referring to Kinsey's publication as "the other great book", it may be difficult not to see a correlation. However, due to her religious beliefs and particular view of these things coming from Satanism and its "do what thou wilt" philosophy, she is not always taken seriously.

Below is a succinct video about Kinsey and the presumed effects of his research with clips from a documentary which interviews Dr. Reisman and others.
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The full documentary is nearly 3hrs and pores over with great detail (and conservative and religious leanings, with minor cinematic flare for its budget) much of what was written here and even more, replete with citations. The full documentary is on Youtube and will be linked at the bottom of this post for those interested.

TL;DR Public school Sex Ed would not exist without Kinsey. Many of the laws which decrease the penalties of soliciting minors and other pedophilic crimes were influenced by legal citations to Kinsey's studies. Kinsey's research underpins almost every aspect of medical and scientific study today, biological and psychological, when it comes to human sexual behaviors. Without Kinsey there would be no widespread acceptance of extramarital sex and alternative sexual lifestyles, little if any tolerance for pornography, no LGBT movement, no John Money, no Transgenderism and "Gender" notions today and so on.
We likely would not even have OnlyFans.

Ultimately Alfred Kinsey's work--provably fallacious in many aspects and further proven to be informed by actual pedophiles, one of which seemingly being a Nazi officer with whom Kinsey was not only in correspondence but, it's said, was actively encouraging him to catalog his acts in diaries for his research--has helped change not just America but the entire world for generations to come.

Full Documentary: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aJ0JQGoAz4w or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ0JQGoAz4w

Alfred Kinsey, much like Hugh Henfer, was not Jewish.

OP is a faggot
 
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There's already a historical lolcows thread, it kind of defeats the purpose of making a thread about someone who died long before our grandparents were born. But I can understand where you're coming from OP.

(Edit, just realized this was moved)
 

EyelessMC

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She also lost her teaching license because she'd seduce/procure students for her boyfriend, Sartre.
Oh! As in Jean Paul Sartre, one of--if not the--biggest names in modern philosophy and existentialism. Figures he would be a pervert.

Kenneth Anger's angle fyi is he thinks Satan and Lucifer are two different entities.
I'd figure he'd have an odd take like that. Technically not a Satanist but basically the same thing I guess, especially considering his movies.
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Yeah, Kenneth Anger is not a Satanist, he's a Thelemite. Same goes for Aleister Crowley.
OP is always a fag as a general rule but that's besides the point. I don't think this is the thread to debate the variations of demon-loving sex pests (the Witchblr thread is better for that) but Crowley was definitely a Satanist, or it sprang from him, and no matter what newage mumbo jumbo a guy tosses into it, if he's slapping triple sixes on stuff he knows what he's doing.

Regardless, even if that wasn't the case he's still an obvious Crowley fan and the issue is this guy being involved with a broadly respected and influential figure studying natural human sexual behavior. It's said Kinsey was deeply interested in Crowley as well, though obviously from a data-gathering standpoint.
And also maybe because he coomed to his writings. Who knows?

(Edit, just realized this was moved)
Yeah the mods are lightning. Still, considering how he's at the epicenter of all of this stuff Kinsey definitely deserves his own thread, wherever it's best suited. Maybe now the Farms will have an anchoring point that other sites and even Trad focused posters don't. Too many people just say "Boomers" or "Jews" without knowing the real history of it all and they retard themselves.
Edit: He didn't die before our grandparents, dude. It's not that old. lol Unless I'm that old, then nevermind.
 

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Oh! As in Jean Paul Sartre, one of--if not the--biggest names in modern philosophy and existentialism. Figures he would be a pervert.


I'd figure he'd have an odd take like that. Technically not a Satanist but basically the same thing I guess, especially considering his movies.
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OP is always a fag as a general rule but that's besides the point. I don't think this is the thread to debate the variations of demon-loving sex pests (the Witchblr thread is better for that) but Crowley was definitely a Satanist, or it sprang from him, and no matter what newage mumbo jumbo a guy tosses into it, if he's slapping triple sixes on stuff he knows what he's doing.

Regardless, even if that wasn't the case he's still an obvious Crowley fan and the issue is this guy being involved with a broadly respected and influential figure studying natural human sexual behavior. It's said Kinsey was deeply interested in Crowley as well, though obviously from a data-gathering standpoint.
And also maybe because he coomed to his writings. Who knows?


Yeah the mods are lightning. Still, considering how he's at the epicenter of all of this stuff Kinsey definitely deserves his own thread, wherever it's best suited. Maybe now the Farms will have an anchoring point that other sites and even Trad focused posters don't. Too many people just say "Boomers" or "Jews" without knowing the real history of it all and they retard themselves.
Edit: He didn't die before our grandparents, dude. It's not that old. lol Unless I'm that old, then nevermind.

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TL;DR Public school Sex Ed would not exist without Kinsey. Many of the laws which decrease the penalties of soliciting minors and other pedophilic crimes were influenced by legal citations to Kinsey's studies. Kinsey's research underpins almost every aspect of medical and scientific study today, biological and psychological, when it comes to human sexual behaviors. Without Kinsey there would be no widespread acceptance of extramarital sex and alternative sexual lifestyles, little if any tolerance for pornography, no LGBT movement, no John Money, no Transgenderism and "Gender" notions today and so on.
We likely would not even have OnlyFans.

Let's not forget that the idea of it being very common for girls to get back-alley abortions also originated from his fraudulent research that used a sample of about 40% prostitutes as representative of average women to prove how common abortions were, which was then later used in the Roe v. Wade supreme court case.

Or how the average american still believes his claim of about 20% of people being gay (when the actual percentage is somewhere between 0.5 and 2). To get to that number he used mostly prison population and within that, a self-selecting group willing to participate in a sex study (attracting the more sexually deviant).

There too almost half of the male sample ended up being from those prison volunteers, completely tainting any possibility of the research telling us anything.

And of course he paid parents / grandparents to molest their children (ages 0-7), categorize their orgasm response in such categories as "writhing" "crying" "passive" "fighting back", but all were considered to have gained from the experience because they achieved orgasm.
 

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Let's not forget that the idea of it being very common for girls to get back-alley abortions also originated from his fraudulent research that used a sample of about 40% prostitutes as representative of average women to prove how common abortions were, which was then later used in the Roe v. Wade supreme court case.

Or how the average american still believes his claim of about 20% of people being gay (when the actual percentage is somewhere between 0.5 and 2). To get to that number he used mostly prison population and within that, a self-selecting group willing to participate in a sex study (attracting the more sexually deviant).

There too almost half of the male sample ended up being from those prison volunteers, completely tainting any possibility of the research telling us anything.

And of course he paid parents / grandparents to molest their children (ages 0-7), categorize their orgasm response in such categories as "writhing" "crying" "passive" "fighting back", but all were considered to have gained from the experience because they achieved orgasm.
Why isn't the horrifying rating available?
 

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Without Kinsey there would be no widespread acceptance of extramarital sex and alternative sexual lifestyles, little if any tolerance for pornography, no LGBT movement, no John Money, no Transgenderism and "Gender" notions today and so on.
We likely would not even have OnlyFans.
I find it hard to believe that all of those things were solely his fault, large-scale social movements like the sexual revolution literally never have one singular person causing the entire event. Maybe he played a large role in having those ideas normalized, but I hesitate to lay the blame solely on one individual interloper.
 

EyelessMC

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I find it hard to believe that all of those things were solely his fault
He was funded by the Rockefellers and had close peers who worked with him and would continue his work even after his death. True, he wasn't alone in anything he did. The Rockefellers took on the US Courts in their subversion to proliferate the supposed legitimacy of his work and, after an actual government investigative committee discovered they were attempting to basically subvert society via academia they still managed to pull it off, although obviously this was a different matter from the Frankfurt School which was imported from the Weimar Republic sometimes between the 30's and early 50's, where literal Socialists would introduce Critical Theory to academia and so on.

So yes, a lot of factors and agendas were crisscrossing around this time which would, like a steel mesh being super-pressed over a floundering fish, slice apart American society (and thereby be exported internationally over time). Honestly it seems "repression" among the populace (as some posters above have suggested) being the least of any trouble. It's less that people were being repressed regarding sexuality and more that they were being taught they were repressed. For twenty years.

Remember, Baby Boomers were born at the earliest around 1945. Kinsey's reports were broadly publicized around 1948 and spreading far and wide by 1953, roughly the time Playboy and similar rags were being released. Imagine being born right at the epoch of porn being argued as "art" and for social acceptance of what only five years ago most people across the world would consider outright sexual deviancy, if not sexual criminality.

Most of us living today and posting on the Farms aren't old enough to remotely recall the world of the 1940's outside of what we read from WWII sources, textbooks, films etc. Baby Boomers don't even have an understanding of that world, for their most formative years they were already entering a world being irrevocably changed, and later they would be the generation to lead the march for that change. For all we know society was never repressed and no one had any real problems (except racism against Blacks I'd assume, but that's for a different thread) until people were taught they were by all these radical teachings crossing over one another.

At least millennials entered a world more knowable. They came in where porn and sexual expression already existed. Sure the Internet porn boom is nothing to ignore, but if that was impactful then imagine the impact of an entire generation being born right when porn as we know it was being invented and distributed. What kind of never before seen effects would/did that have, let alone that these "sexually liberated" ideas were being touted as backed by science?
Not to take all the blame off of Baby Boomers but rather to understand why that blame exists. Unlike retards who just shout "muh gays" and "muh Whites" and "muh Boomers" this subject actually gives us real insight into what happened and who was ultimately to blame. Boomers certainly pushed it all along but they didn't start this--men like Kinsey did, emboldened by groups like the Rockefellers.

TL;DR Although there were larger disparate forces at work which likely would have attempted a similar direction even without Kinsey, the specific aspects of Kinsey's teaching and especially his research--most crucially that regarding children even from birth and earlier--is actually all him.
He directly inspired and legitimized what otherwise would have been just sexual deviancy and endorsed the most terrific abuses and sexual extremes by signing off on it with a PhD. Money propelled him and popular mainstream media eventually made him shine. It was arguably the beginning of the end, all because of this guy's ideas (and sexual proclivities) getting shady money and shady help from shady people aiming to change the world.

If you want to think of it in a kind of funny way, Alfred Kinsey was the tool they used to shatter cultures. The force with which he was swung didn't come from him, but the specific contours and shape of the tool are all his own.
Another way is to see him as a mad scientist, but instead of inventing a super death robot or some kind of uber virus he invented a means of promulgating sexual abuse and further under the guise of legitimate academic research.
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Thank you for the VERY informative post. I remember writing about him for A paper. I loved watching the movie, because I adore Liam Neeson.
One scene particularly stuck with me that Kinsey had to exclude a pedophile because they did not practice consensual behavior, glossing over the whole child thing.
It give a great window into the hole SJW guilty mind- what happened to them in their childhood.
 

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Thank you for the VERY informative post. I remember writing about him for A paper. I loved watching the movie, because I adore Liam Neeson.
One scene particularly stuck with me that Kinsey had to exclude a pedophile because they did not practice consensual behavior, glossing over the whole child thing.
It give a great window into the hole SJW guilty mind- what happened to them in their childhood.
Funny how the movie frames him as a lone ranger going up against smallminded establishment when in reality he was funded by the richest family in the US.

Also no mention of his links to Anton Lavey or how he was the one that received Lavey's diary on how to do sex magick after his death.
 

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Funny how the movie frames him as a lone ranger going up against smallminded establishment when in reality he was funded by the richest family in the US.

Also no mention of his links to Anton Lavey or how he was the one that received Lavey's diary on how to do sex magick after his death.
Yes, it does.
It is still an important movie to watch.
Especially in the face of what abuse does to people when they are children.
 

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Yes, it does.
It is still an important movie to watch.
Especially in the face of what abuse does to people when they are children.
These kind of movies always also reframe some of the bad stuff. They know it has to be mentioned, but they can gloss over it.

Like the Gandhi movie having a btief moment where he is angry with his wife for not having the same devotion as him and pushing her outside of his house, and then two minutes later chastised and apologizing for getting angry with her.

A way to gloss over him being a wife beater.

Or a Nelson Mandela play from the Netherlands where there is a brief mention of some industrial sabotage where people got hurt, when in reality they were targetting certain people with their bombs.

Of course some things are ignored completely if it can't be reframed, such as Gandhi sleeping naked with his nieces to "test his resolve".

I'm not 100% on the following, I'd have to rewatch the movie and reread my research, but I'm pretty sure that the movie reframed it only as using the pedophile's research/diary, while in actuality Kinsey also asked him to test certain things and was present for some of them.
 

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These kind of movies always also reframe some of the bad stuff. They know it has to be mentioned, but they can gloss over it.

Like the Gandhi movie having a btief moment where he is angry with his wife for not having the same devotion as him and pushing her outside of his house, and then two minutes later chastised and apologizing for getting angry with her.

A way to gloss over him being a wife beater.

Or a Nelson Mandela play from the Netherlands where there is a brief mention of some industrial sabotage where people got hurt, when in reality they were targetting certain people with their bombs.

Of course some things are ignored completely if it can't be reframed, such as Gandhi sleeping naked with his nieces to "test his resolve".

I'm not 100% on the following, I'd have to rewatch the movie and reread my research, but I'm pretty sure that the movie reframed it only as using the pedophile's research/diary, while in actuality Kinsey also asked him to test certain things and was present for some of them.
Yeah I would not be surprised.
I know Razorfist can be spergy AF but he did make an interesting video of a black slave owner.
Will be ever get a movie like that no?
I remember I watched a few frames of Triumph of Will and being amazed at her craft. Not the subject matter but how well she propagandized. To the use of angles, next the use of light/ shadow.
"Fortuitously for the Kinsey team, among their inter- I viewees were a group of men who hali data on hand from what seem to have been identically designed genital stimulation experiments on children-data obtained by 'actual observation' and 'timed with second hand �r stopwatch' (Male Report, chapter 5). By further good fot/tune, some of these men were 'technically trained.' Thus, it is implied by Kinsey, their observations on the results of hbmosexual masturbation of young boys, ranging in age froItt 2 months to 15 years, are a valid and meaningful way t(j) learn about childhood sexuality. "
p. 115: "Some of the pre-adolescent contacts had provided emotional satisfactions which had conditioned the female for the acceptance of later sexual activities."
Just on cursory research. I think talking to pedophiles IS important for two reasons:
1. What conditions are in common?
2. What made them offend?
That being said I do not think of a pedophile as a person. More like a slug. A thing to be observed but also locked up, FOREVER.
 

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TL;DR Public school Sex Ed would not exist without Kinsey. Many of the laws which decrease the penalties of soliciting minors and other pedophilic crimes were influenced by legal citations to Kinsey's studies. Kinsey's research underpins almost every aspect of medical and scientific study today, biological and psychological, when it comes to human sexual behaviors. Without Kinsey there would be no widespread acceptance of extramarital sex and alternative sexual lifestyles, little if any tolerance for pornography, no LGBT movement, no John Money, no Transgenderism and "Gender" notions today and so on.
We likely would not even have OnlyFans.

Ultimately Alfred Kinsey's work--provably fallacious in many aspects and further proven to be informed by actual pedophiles, one of which seemingly being a Nazi officer with whom Kinsey was not only in correspondence but, it's said, was actively encouraging him to catalog his acts in diaries for his research--has helped change not just America but the entire world for generations to come.

Full Documentary: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aJ0JQGoAz4w or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ0JQGoAz4w

Alfred Kinsey, much like Hugh Henfer, was not Jewish.


What about Freud, Krafft-Ebing, and Hirschfeld? You're acting like Alfred Kinsey was the one that singly handily overturn sexual morality. The rise of psychology as a political and social institution led to the weakening the church and local communities in enforcing social morality. Capitalism and Urbanization also helped in weakening local communities and sexual morality. Was Kinsey responsible for Colette, D.H. Lawrence, EM Forster, and other writers? No Freud, globalization, industrialization, and capitalism were.





He was funded by the Rockefellers and had close peers who worked with him and would continue his work even after his death. True, he wasn't alone in anything he did. The Rockefellers took on the US Courts in their subversion to proliferate the supposed legitimacy of his work and, after an actual government investigative committee discovered they were attempting to basically subvert society via academia they still managed to pull it off, although obviously this was a different matter from the Frankfurt School which was imported from the Weimar Republic sometimes between the 30's and early 50's, where literal Socialists would introduce Critical Theory to academia and so on.

So yes, a lot of factors and agendas were crisscrossing around this time which would, like a steel mesh being super-pressed over a floundering fish, slice apart American society (and thereby be exported internationally over time). Honestly it seems "repression" among the populace (as some posters above have suggested) being the least of any trouble. It's less that people were being repressed regarding sexuality and more that they were being taught they were repressed. For twenty years.

Remember, Baby Boomers were born at the earliest around 1945. Kinsey's reports were broadly publicized around 1948 and spreading far and wide by 1953, roughly the time Playboy and similar rags were being released. Imagine being born right at the epoch of porn being argued as "art" and for social acceptance of what only five years ago most people across the world would consider outright sexual deviancy, if not sexual criminality.

Most of us living today and posting on the Farms aren't old enough to remotely recall the world of the 1940's outside of what we read from WWII sources, textbooks, films etc. Baby Boomers don't even have an understanding of that world, for their most formative years they were already entering a world being irrevocably changed, and later they would be the generation to lead the march for that change. For all we know society was never repressed and no one had any real problems (except racism against Blacks I'd assume, but that's for a different thread) until people were taught they were by all these radical teachings crossing over one another.

At least millennials entered a world more knowable. They came in where porn and sexual expression already existed. Sure the Internet porn boom is nothing to ignore, but if that was impactful then imagine the impact of an entire generation being born right when porn as we know it was being invented and distributed. What kind of never before seen effects would/did that have, let alone that these "sexually liberated" ideas were being touted as backed by science?
Not to take all the blame off of Baby Boomers but rather to understand why that blame exists. Unlike retards who just shout "muh gays" and "muh Whites" and "muh Boomers" this subject actually gives us real insight into what happened and who was ultimately to blame. Boomers certainly pushed it all along but they didn't start this--men like Kinsey did, emboldened by groups like the Rockefellers.

TL;DR Although there were larger disparate forces at work which likely would have attempted a similar direction even without Kinsey, the specific aspects of Kinsey's teaching and especially his research--most crucially that regarding children even from birth and earlier--is actually all him.
He directly inspired and legitimized what otherwise would have been just sexual deviancy and endorsed the most terrific abuses and sexual extremes by signing off on it with a PhD. Money propelled him and popular mainstream media eventually made him shine. It was arguably the beginning of the end, all because of this guy's ideas (and sexual proclivities) getting shady money and shady help from shady people aiming to change the world.

If you want to think of it in a kind of funny way, Alfred Kinsey was the tool they used to shatter cultures. The force with which he was swung didn't come from him, but the specific contours and shape of the tool are all his own.
Another way is to see him as a mad scientist, but instead of inventing a super death robot or some kind of uber virus he invented a means of promulgating sexual abuse and further under the guise of legitimate academic research.
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You make great points. But I don't think that the United States as much as conservatives would like to believe had a wholesome sexual culture. Maybe the WASP in small town America did, but the sexual culture in cities were complex. The citites were home to thousands of immigrants from here and abroad that gave rise to different sexual mores. Weren't the western part of the United States known to have brothels. Also what about the race records that were so popular with white middle class that wanted to scandalize their parents? Or the pansy craze that was hot in the 1920s? I think that it's was more complicated than repression and expression. It's more that there were a variety of cultures that people could participate in, especially if you were in the city.

It could be that it's more of a culture war between two or more groups. I don't want to say two, because different groups have different values. People like to say that Blacks and Latinos are culturally conservative, but that type of conservatism is different from WASP conservatism.




Or how the average american still believes his claim of about 20% of people being gay (when the actual percentage is somewhere between 0.5 and 2). To get to that number he used mostly prison population and within that, a self-selecting group willing to participate in a sex study (attracting the more sexually deviant).

I read that it's about 10% of men will or have engaged in homosexual behavior, not that they identify as part of the LGBT. To be honest, that it sorta of believable. Aren't English public schools known for their situational homosexuality? Or sex-segregation in Islamic Countries cause men to engage with young boys or lower status males?
 

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I read that it's about 10% of men will or have engaged in homosexual behavior, not that they identify as part of the LGBT. To be honest, that it sorta of believable.

I have not been able to find any non-kinsey institute study that shows this. Kinsey and a number of their studies use prison populations to get there; you can't look at a man that's been raped in prison and say that because he's engaged in homosexual behaviour he is gay or bi.

It feels believable because you see plenty of gays in media and the arts. It isn't that common when you really dive into the data.

Btw, I still operate from the presumption of "born that way" in regards to homosexuality, which means engaging in homosexual behaviour once isn't indicative of homosexuality as much as it is of experimentation. It's only repeated engagement that indicates homosexuality to me.
 
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