Archived Version of Introman/Angelo Chat -

Flame the Sunbird

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I was curious about this interview with Phil's dad that I've seen referenced a few times but no one seemed to have the link anymore. Was able to dig it up so posting here if others are interested. Angelo confirms that what Phil has been calling "rape" was actually Angelo spanking him when Phil was bullying an eight year old kid. The interview makes it sound like Phil's mom kind of manipulated Phil into thinking it was sexual assault.

Not an update so mods please move if this should be in Crustpunk Fandom.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110925163539/http://adfki.wikinet.org/wiki/Introman/Angelo_Chat

Introman/Angelo Chat

In September of 2011, Introman tried to set the record straight and clear the name of ADF's father.

[edit]The chat
[2011-09-13 20:35:23] <introMAN> let's start this bitch. I'm going to be a typing medium for Angelo since he's old. Let's get the questions started!!!

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[2011-09-13 20:37:40] <introMAN> wow. no one cares we have ADF's father on tap. start asking the questions or i will
[2011-09-13 20:37:56] <Valen> Not too impressed with ADF?
[2011-09-13 20:38:31] <Eddie Olmos> "Phillip has said all over facebook that you raped him. Did you?"
[2011-09-13 20:38:52] <introMAN> Angelo hinted that ADF's doing great by living by himself. Phillip took a lot of work to be socialabe and independent. ANGELO's words not mine
[2011-09-13 20:39:04] <JustAnotherObserver> Don't mind me. I'm mostly here to watch.
[2011-09-13 20:39:45] <Eddie Olmos> really? weird
[2011-09-13 20:39:55] <introMAN> Eddie Olmos, Angelo is dismissing the rape allegations by ADF. He's saying that Jackie lied to phillip and Phillip having his disability made him believe that.
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[2011-09-13 20:40:22] <Valen> Jackie being the mother?
[2011-09-13 20:40:23] <rararuru> How often do you get to see ADF? And do you fully support the choices he's made E.G. transitioning etc.
[2011-09-13 20:40:33] <introMAN> Valen, Ang says yes.
[2011-09-13 20:41:31] <introMAN> Angelo see's ADF once a year at the most. Also, Ang thinks this is just a phase in ADF's life. Stating that him being a queen means he dresses up as cartoons.
[2011-09-13 20:42:06] <introMAN> Angelo pretty much called ADF a homosexual Queen who dresses weird but in a nice subtle way.
[2011-09-13 20:42:20] <Eddie Olmos> So what he's saying is that ADF believes what he does because themother put the idea in him?
[2011-09-13 20:42:33] <Eddie Olmos> lol
[2011-09-13 20:42:38] <Vyral> Sounds like a fierce divorce
[2011-09-13 20:42:40] <introMAN> Yes, and the fact that phillip has a mental disorder
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[2011-09-13 20:43:26] <Moniker> hnng
[2011-09-13 20:44:10] <Valen> What did your son want to be as a kid?
[2011-09-13 20:44:41] <Eddie Olmos> exactly what's he doing now? there was some talk that Angelo's homeless or something
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[2011-09-13 20:45:50] <Trey> Full House . . .
[2011-09-13 20:45:57] <introMAN> Angelo honestly doesn't remeber what phillip wanted as a kid.
[2011-09-13 20:46:09] <Eddie Olmos> Trey! :biggrin:
[2011-09-13 20:46:20] <Eddie Olmos> Yah, not often that we get so many people
[2011-09-13 20:46:24] <Trey> Hey, Eddie Olmos!
[2011-09-13 20:46:29] <Valen> Hey hey trey <
[2011-09-13 20:46:37] <Trey> Hey man!
[2011-09-13 20:46:43] <introMAN> Angelo is not homeless. He has a new family . ADF doesn't like the fact that Angelo hands around minorities.
[2011-09-13 20:46:57] <Trey> His dad?
[2011-09-13 20:47:03] <introMAN> yep
[2011-09-13 20:47:08] <rararuru> Hey Trey
[2011-09-13 20:47:14] <Trey> Hey!
[2011-09-13 20:47:22] <Valen> So the son is a bit of a biggot?
[2011-09-13 20:47:34] <Valen> In softer terms
[2011-09-13 20:47:47] <Trey> Holy shit! Was his father contacted?
[2011-09-13 20:47:49] <introMAN> Angelo does confirm that Phillip does have some prejudices in him
[2011-09-13 20:47:59] <Eddie Olmos> lol maaaaaybe just a little racist, going on what we've learned from da wiki
[2011-09-13 20:48:35] <rararuru> Does Angelo have any fond memories of ADF? Whether it be growing up or in more recent times?
[2011-09-13 20:50:10] <introMAN> Angelo had a hard time raising phillip becuase of his disorder. He also remembers Phillips most recent house arrival. Introman(Angelo still has trouble acknowleding the ahuviya alter ego. tried to explain it to him, but he still thinks ADF is a homosexual crossdresser.)
[2011-09-13 20:51:11] <introMAN> OK guys. going to take a 5 minute break and log on to Maria Pupo's account to show angelo ADF's facebook. be back soon
[2011-09-13 20:51:14] <Vyral> well he wouldn't be entirelywrong
[2011-09-13 20:51:21] <Vyral> kk smoke break
[2011-09-13 20:51:30] <rararuru> lol, okay
[2011-09-13 20:52:35] <introMAN> logged on and hit adf's facebook. Angelo actually thought ADF's facebook profile picture is of a nazi and is slightly mad
[2011-09-13 20:52:49] <rararuru> oh damn
[2011-09-13 20:52:52] <introMAN> had to explain to him that it's a russian cosplay or something
[2011-09-13 20:52:55] <Trey> Oh damn!!
[2011-09-13 20:53:14] <introMAN> http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-ash2/276338_100000778373584_553608870_n.jpg here it is while i talk to the old man
[2011-09-13 20:53:15] <Eddie Olmos> XD
[2011-09-13 20:53:29] <rararuru> oh dear
[2011-09-13 20:53:48] <SchmoopieCake> OH thank god, no closeup of the face.
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[2011-09-13 20:58:12] <introMAN> ok. I scrolled down adf's page and ADF put his education as Moscow University of Engineering. Gelo doesn't understand how ADF could do both Moscow and GCCC
[2011-09-13 20:58:35] <introMAN> and is talking about how ADF's mother is bad with money. to be able to send ADF to a school like that and be on Social Security
[2011-09-13 20:58:41] <rararuru> understandably so
[2011-09-13 20:58:56] <rararuru> does ADF have any connection to Russia at all? has he ever left the US?
[2011-09-13 20:59:03] <Trey> Like mother, like son.
[2011-09-13 20:59:18] <introMAN> introman speaking . Not at all unless you counting having a russian email provider
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[2011-09-13 21:00:30] <introMAN> I pried out of my homie Jello. that he and Jacky use to drink heavy till the second trimester. which explains a lot
[2011-09-13 21:00:58] <Trey> So Ahuviya does have FAS
[2011-09-13 21:02:13] <Eddie Olmos> Seriously? Holy crap
[2011-09-13 21:02:59] <introMAN> ok. so I showed Gelo some of ADF's friends. I don't want to give this crazy bitch any publicity. lets just say she writes really horrendously and is a communist. Gelo saw her profile and is wondering why the FBI hasn't arrested her for being a traitor
[2011-09-13 21:04:07] <Trey> Which crazy bitch?
[2011-09-13 21:04:41] <Valen> Oh you know TREY ;)
[2011-09-13 21:04:46] <introMAN> fine. Kia Njoun or something
[2011-09-13 21:04:52] <Trey> Oh, that girl!
[2011-09-13 21:05:06] <Trey> xD
[2011-09-13 21:06:16] <Vyral> When the seldom time you've met Phillip the last few years, what would he be like?
[2011-09-13 21:06:43] <Vyral> All drama and whining, or present himself in a respectful manner
[2011-09-13 21:06:52] <introMAN> I showed the blue color pencil sentence about being raped on 7.4.1997 . Angelo actually said he spanked ADF for trying to abuse a 8 year old at a gathering.
[2011-09-13 21:07:31] <Eddie Olmos> Wait......
[2011-09-13 21:07:41] <Eddie Olmos> abuse an eight year old?
[2011-09-13 21:07:49] <Trey> ADF tried to raped someone?
[2011-09-13 21:07:54] <rararuru> sexual or physical?
[2011-09-13 21:07:55] <Trey> at eight?
[2011-09-13 21:07:56] <Eddie Olmos> what kind of abuse we talking?
[2011-09-13 21:08:01] <introMAN> woah. push around the 8 year old
[2011-09-13 21:08:13] <introMAN> nothing sexual
[2011-09-13 21:08:28] <Eddie Olmos> lol *wipes sweat from brow*
[2011-09-13 21:08:32] <rararuru> phew
[2011-09-13 21:08:35] <Eddie Olmos> that's... a relief
[2011-09-13 21:08:51] <Eddie Olmos> with adf, you never know?
[2011-09-13 21:09:02] <Trey> Yeah, it's a relief. We were jumping to conclusions.
[2011-09-13 21:09:17] <introMAN> actually as one of my hermanas(Maria) can tell you. ADF likes the underage bishies
[2011-09-13 21:09:46] <introMAN> I told angelo that ADF is dating a 16 year old online and this is the maddest i've seen of him
[2011-09-13 21:09:50] <Trey> I noticed . . .
[2011-09-13 21:09:51] <rararuru> what does Angelo think of that? does he know?
[2011-09-13 21:10:17] <introMAN> He knows and he is honestly pissed off. He wants to the trolls to call the 16 year old parents house and tell them the news
[2011-09-13 21:10:38] <introMAN> thisis the maddest i've seen of him
[2011-09-13 21:10:38] <Trey> We would if we could!
[2011-09-13 21:10:48] <introMAN> I have the parents phone number
[2011-09-13 21:10:50] <Vyral> It's definitely understandable
[2011-09-13 21:10:56] <introMAN> just to lazy to buy skype creidts
[2011-09-13 21:11:01] <rararuru> i don't blame him, it is pretty disgusting
[2011-09-13 21:11:34] <Vyral> well if he disciplined Phillip for pushing a kid around, he doesn't seem the kinda guy to tolerate messing with the youth
[2011-09-13 21:12:50] <rararuru> yup
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[2011-09-13 21:13:51] <Eddie Olmos> Angelo sounds like a younger, less paranoid and crazed lumberjack
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[2011-09-13 21:14:30] <rararuru> is Angelo alright? considering he just found out his son is dating a 16 year old
[2011-09-13 21:14:59] <introMAN> He's telling me funny stories of Jackie Hijinks. like trying to make Phillip even more retarded on paper, so she could get more benefits out of him. Or letting him stay in high school 2 years longer than usual.
[2011-09-13 21:15:17] <introMAN> Angelo is still pissed but i told him . we will take care of this
[2011-09-13 21:15:52] <Eddie Olmos> Commie's got some questions
[2011-09-13 21:15:54] <Eddie Olmos> copypasting
[2011-09-13 21:15:57] <Eddie Olmos> actually I wanna posit two: 1) What does his father think of his political stances? and 2) Are the stories of him hitting his mother true, and has this happened more than once?
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[2011-09-13 21:16:57] <Trey> Wait, adf spent 6 years in high school?
[2011-09-13 21:17:04] <introMAN> yes trey.
[2011-09-13 21:17:16] <introMAN> he didn't graduate till he was 19 and like 3/4 quarters
[2011-09-13 21:17:40] <Trey> God, this just keeps getting interesting.
[2011-09-13 21:18:02] <Eddie Olmos> deeper down the rabbit hole~
[2011-09-13 21:18:33] <introMAN> 1. He thinks that his son's stances are temporary and they will change over time. ADF use to be a republican in high school 2. Actually Angelo says that ADF used physical violence when she tried to abuse his disability diagnosis.
[2011-09-13 21:19:01] <rararuru> so he hit his mother?
[2011-09-13 21:19:05] <Trey> >>Republican >xD
[2011-09-13 21:19:06] <introMAN> Yes
[2011-09-13 21:19:20] <rararuru> because she was exploiting his disabilities for monetary gain?
[2011-09-13 21:19:24] <introMAN> yes
[2011-09-13 21:19:59] <Vyral> any other conflicts transpire between Phillip and Jackie?
[2011-09-13 21:20:29] <introMAN> Just minor teenage drama.
[2011-09-13 21:20:41] <introMAN> like spending ADF's SSI check and stuff of that nature
[2011-09-13 21:21:04] <Trey> I've got a couple of questions if they haven't been asked: Did ADF crossdress or show any behavior that was out of the ordinary?
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[2011-09-13 21:21:38] <introMAN> Yes, ADF is highly autistic
[2011-09-13 21:22:43] <introMAN> He said that ADF was a normal straight male until he noticed that his relationship with kourine failed and his son came out. Angelo doesn't know that Kourine wasn't his girlfriend
[2011-09-13 21:23:24] <Trey> Oh! That would explain a lot. What about ADF's previous girlfriends
[2011-09-13 21:23:55] <introMAN> he didn't have any. It took ADF a long time to get down conversation, hygiene and confidence down.
[2011-09-13 21:25:19] <Trey> I see.
[2011-09-13 21:25:43] <Eddie Olmos> So no signs of feminine behavior or girly leanings
[2011-09-13 21:25:49] <rararuru> very strange
[2011-09-13 21:25:50] <Eddie Olmos> lol
[2011-09-13 21:26:00] <introMAN> Angelo didn't detect anything
[2011-09-13 21:26:33] <Eddie Olmos> Ah, so its still a possibility. But highly unlikely since phillip makes shit upsomuch
[2011-09-13 21:27:14] <Eddie Olmos> Has he seen the screenshot of the "Ahuyiva Abuse Rememberence Day" event he deleted?
[2011-09-13 21:27:29] <rararuru> ^^^
[2011-09-13 21:27:59] <introMAN> I told him about that event and he just shrugged it off. he implicitly said that it's more offensive not to him but survivors of Abuse.
[2011-09-13 21:28:59] <Eddie Olmos> Does he know how Phil made the event one day after the 9/11 anniverary, after calling it the result of capitalism?
[2011-09-13 21:29:04] <Trey> The event just has been deleted from adf's page. It's still going
[2011-09-13 21:29:28] <Valen> Yup me n Trey still fight the good fight
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[2011-09-13 21:30:19] <rararuru> it's still there? well i'll be damned...
[2011-09-13 21:30:22] <introMAN> ok. angelo has got to go home so he says thank you for asking him these questions and to watch phillip. he wouldn't want his son to go to jail.
[2011-09-13 21:30:35] <introMAN> angelo just shrugs off ADF's delusions
 

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I love this exchange so much if it's true can @introman confirm how accurate it is once and for all?

[2011-09-13 20:39:55] <introMAN> Eddie Olmos, Angelo is dismissing the rape allegations by ADF. He's saying that Jackie lied to phillip and Phillip having his disability made him believe that.
Yea not supprised she would do this to score points.

[2011-09-13 20:42:40] <introMAN> Yes, and the fact that phillip has a mental disorder
I wonder if Angelo was talking just about Autism or something else, because Phil's whole mess isn't explainable by autism alone.

[2011-09-13 20:50:10] <introMAN> Angelo had a hard time raising phillip becuase of his disorder. He also remembers Phillips most recent house arrival. Introman(Angelo still has trouble acknowleding the ahuviya alter ego. tried to explain it to him, but he still thinks ADF is a homosexual crossdresser.)
I'm not supprised, he seems to have been the better parent from what we have seen from the news clippings and seeing his mess of a ex fuck up his kid must have been hard to see.

2011-09-13 20:58:35] <introMAN> and is talking about how ADF's mother is bad with money. to be able to send ADF to a school like that and be on Social Security
Yea this I can belive.

[2011-09-13 21:00:30] <introMAN> I pried out of my homie Jello. that he and Jacky use to drink heavy till the second trimester. which explains a lot
I doubt he's got full blown FAS but he's not just Autisitic.

[2011-09-13 21:23:55] <introMAN> he didn't have any. It took ADF a long time to get down conversation, hygiene and confidence down.
I wonder how Angelo would react nowing now just how far his son's regressed since he's living on his own.

[2011-09-13 21:30:22] <introMAN> ok. angelo has got to go home so he says thank you for asking him these questions and to watch phillip. he wouldn't want his son to go to jail.
I think Prison or a Group home is the way Phil's saga is going to end at least in a pleasant way, all's it's going to take is one cold snap in a winter he can't find some one to mooch off or one of his suicide attempts to work by accident (standing on a bridge and a gust of wind taking that final step for him) and the local authority's are going to be fishing a bloated corpse out of a storm drain.
 

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I think Prison or a Group home is the way Phil's saga is going to end at least in a pleasant way, all's it's going to take is one cold snap in a winter he can't find some one to mooch off or one of his suicide attempts to work by accident (standing on a bridge and a gust of wind taking that final step for him) and the local authority's are going to be fishing a bloated corpse out of a storm drain.

It's fairly horrifying to imagine Phil somehow getting even more bloated and disgusting than he already is, as he is already less appealing than most corpses.
 

Flame the Sunbird

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I think Prison or a Group home is the way Phil's saga is going to end at least in a pleasant way, all's it's going to take is one cold snap in a winter he can't find some one to mooch off or one of his suicide attempts to work by accident (standing on a bridge and a gust of wind taking that final step for him) and the local authority's are going to be fishing a bloated corpse out of a storm drain.

Yeah, I know Phil's against going into a group home but I think if there could be one for him and some of the many other homeless "radicals" he's been affiliated with (Jordan, Leslie/Terra, Violet Moonstar, etc.), it would really be the best thing for all of them.

(But god, can you imagine what a fucking nightmare it would be for the people working there?! (:_()
 

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Yeah, I know Phil's against going into a group home but I think if there could be one for him and some of the many other homeless "radicals" he's been affiliated with (Jordan, Leslie/Terra, Violet Moonstar, etc.), it would really be the best thing for all of them.

(But god, can you imagine what a fucking nightmare it would be for the people working there?! (:_()
In the end I don't think he's going to have a choice, about going into one if he manages to not end up in the prison system. His mental health is declining as is his physical health, he's clearly unhinged in a very fundamental way given all that he's not going to be able to keep living the way he is for much longer before something finally has to give and he ends up having to go some ware for his own good.

He'll really hate it at first especially when it starts cutting into his rowboat so he can't afford Tattoos as often or at all, but eventually when he ralises that it's warmer than been on the streets and he's a good deal safer he'll grudgingly accept it.
He wont be pleasant for the staff to deal with, and he'll be that problem member of the house that's more of a chore to deal with but once he's gotten used to the creature comforts he'll bitch and moan every step of the way but he'll not give them up easily and comply with authority figures when he has to, I'd feel sorry for any one he has to share such a place with as they will be with him 24/7 and nobody need's that kind of exposure to Phil even with access to nose plugs and anti bacterial gel.
 

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(But god, can you imagine what a fucking nightmare it would be for the people working there?! (:_()

Thorazine injections through a syringe the size of a pogo stick.

I've heard some horror stories from female assistants/nurses working in group homes, and there is a stunning amount of sexual harassment that happens to some staff members by the patients. The lower-functioning residents genuinely don't know any better, but some moderate- to high-functioning ones just pretend not to know better and use their mental illness as an excuse to grope nurses. Guess which category Phil and company will probably fall into...?
 

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Thorazine injections through a syringe the size of a pogo stick.

I've heard some horror stories from female assistants/nurses working in group homes, and there is a stunning amount of sexual harassment that happens to some staff members by the patients. The lower-functioning residents genuinely don't know any better, but some moderate- to high-functioning ones just pretend not to know better and use their mental illness as an excuse to grope nurses. Guess which category Phil and company will probably fall into...?
I'll never forget the day my cousin's ex girlfriend came home crying because one of the residents at the memory care facility she works at wouldn't stop touching her, wouldn't stop making rude comments, etc. It'd be just like that with Phil.
 

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