Arin Hanson / Egoraptor / Grump - "Hey I'm Grump!" of Game Grumps fame, hypocritical SJW doxer, shat himself recording a let's play

FakeishNamedicoot

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This is kind of unrelated, but Christ, are all of their videos 40+ minutes now? GG was tolerable when it was 10-15 minute bite-sized chunk episodes you could put in the background while you made breakfast or something, but who the fuck is watching 40+ minutes of autistic screeching and nothing happening?
I would say it's an algorithm related thing. This is just speculation (as is fucking anything youtube algorithmic related, honestly) but a lot of people on my radar have been trending towards more long form style content. Perhaps the bots are rewarding that style and the grumps are cashing in. But I am at best a layman so take it with a pinch of salt.

OR

They saw that oney, the man with a fraction of the sub count yet comparable views, does his videos anywhere between 20-40 minutes at a time and reaps success from it. What with this sonic stuff in these past couple of posts it could be an easy enough correlation to make.

OR (my preferred choice)

Arin is aware that prolonged exposure to his autism causes severe damage to people's brains and he wants to contribute to the further degradation of society.

More than likely it's a money move. I mean c'mon man, it's Arin fucking Hanson here.
 

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I would say it's an algorithm related thing. This is just speculation (as is fucking anything youtube algorithmic related, honestly) but a lot of people on my radar have been trending towards more long form style content. Perhaps the bots are rewarding that style and the grumps are cashing in. But I am at best a layman so take it with a pinch of salt.
i like your other takes, but this is the closest to the truth from what i've heard/synthesized from multiple youtubers that talk about meta-youtube -- there's a definite shift towards preferring more long-form content, and arin's primary focus absolutely seems to be the money.
 

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It bears repeating how Oney having a smaller sub-base draws more than the Glumphs.

I admit i only recently started actually watching Chris' content and felt something I barely find on YT anymore: fun. Dumb and silly shit I'd normally just find amusing was gutbustingly funny, even Cory being exceptional and half-assing RE3 was enjoyable.

And my only guess as to why I like them is they're genuinely just sputtering around and having fun. I guess that just filters into the content in a way I hadn't seen in a long ass while. Not one video I have clicked from OneyPlays has been a letdown for me.

Meanwhile... how many parts did GG's Paper Mario: TTYD LP have? I last clocked somewhere way above 50+ (60+? 70+?) and they were still in Glitzville.
 
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It bears repeating how Oney having a smaller sub-base draws more than the Glumphs.

I admit i only recently started actually watching Chris' content and felt something I barely find on YT anymore: fun. Dumb and silly shit I'd normally just find amusing was gutbustingly funny, even Cory being exceptional and half-assing RE3 was enjoyable.

And my only guess as to why I like them is they're genuinely just sputtering around and having fun. I guess that just filters into the content in a way I hadn't seen in a long ass while. Not one video I have clicked from OneyPlays has been a letdown for me.

Meanwhile... how many parts did GG's Paper Mario LP have? I last clocked somewhere way above 50+ (60+? 70+?) and they were still in Glitzville.
Chris has better control since he knows the LP stuff is a side thing. Dude is already doing great with responses to Bowlbo and is still being extremely successful. That and the show from it's origin has been about a bunch of people playing games as the backdrop for the conversations they have. Grumps after about a year of two after Danny took over went more for the gameplay over the conversation so it hurt their videos on the long end of the same jokes repeated. Those two mediums can meet and be great, but right now I think many more people are leaning to having background noise and OP has a better flow since it is talking about stuff more so unrelated to the game.

Chris is def the better content creator bar none, but I do want to state (to be fair and out of love) that Chris also has a bunch of fucking spergs in his fanbase. If you ever want to see some cringe look at the Oneyplays fan facebook group. It's just the exact same jokes over and over and people trying way too hard to channel Chris energy. Like GG lovelies are fucking exceptional individuals, but the Oneyplays ones that just swarm and flood videos (Seriously just look at the song upload for Liberty by the Pillows) are just as bad.

I'd say as long as you stick with the videos and keep up with them on a basis you won't see any insane sperging, but the more and more you feel like talking with others on reddit or FB you'll wish you stayed in that safe place haha. The people on KF who post about Oneyplays (especially in this thread) are the ones I enjoy talking to since I think the agreement here is that we watch the video for the people and thankfully Chris and crew (DD&J, and Sleepycabin mates) are really what make the videos better.

But in terms of GG (to get back on topic) the Grumps def have pushed for longer style content (I think in two releases per day).

It does make sense since there's less editing to do for Ben but to also fit the algorithm better. The problem is the content is still fucking shit.
 

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It bears repeating how Oney having a smaller sub-base draws more than the Glumphs.

I admit i only recently started actually watching Chris' content and felt something I barely find on YT anymore: fun. Dumb and silly shit I'd normally just find amusing was gutbustingly funny, even Cory being exceptional and half-assing RE3 was enjoyable.

And my only guess as to why I like them is they're genuinely just sputtering around and having fun. I guess that just filters into the content in a way I hadn't seen in a long ass while. Not one video I have clicked from OneyPlays has been a letdown for me.

Meanwhile... how many parts did GG's Paper Mario: TTYD LP have? I last clocked somewhere way above 50+ (60+? 70+?) and they were still in Glitzville.
It helps that Oney knows a cavalcade of experienced/genuinely good editors who bring their own style and have too much time and not enough money. That and he often swaps out "guests" with whichever friend of his that's available. Love or hate the LP format, Oney brings a variety to his channel most others LP channels couldn't hope to bring.

Even if the grumps bring in GOOD (have to specify because most of their editors are trash) new editors, they often are forced to badly ape Barry or face Arin's autistic wrath for daring to be creative. Creativity which often involves making fun of Dan/Arin because that's all the "good" content you could possibly make with the trash these two chucklefucks shit out onto the editing bay. Not to mention its always just Dan and Arin now, which makes an already stale lunch freeze over into a hunk of shit.

Its hilarious to think that a few years ago GG were very close to doing exactly what Oney does now. But Arin had to be a lazy POS who burned every bridge he could through sheer arrogance.
 

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It bears repeating how Oney having a smaller sub-base draws more than the Glumphs.
That's because "Subs" have very little baring of status on YouTube anymore. Sure you get a fancy plaque at 100k subs for your wall, but it's not a big accomplishment in the grand scheme of things.

For example, Matthewmatosis has just over 200k subs. Would you consider his critical input be worth less than say... Girlfriend Reviews? Which at the time of writing has just passed 800k. Not at all.

No matter the size of your channel, YouTube priorities content that has notable engagement per viewer-a-minute, as those statistics present you as viable marketing and advertising space. Additionally as someone who works with YouTube production outlets, it's rather apparent that whoever they've (Grumps) hired to maintain uploads isn't taking advantage/aware of current tagging system or even general word-placement. That said, it should be expected when you hire friends without this type of back-end experience.

For those of you curious: Google has to filter constant phrases, quotes and more to ensure that you are always directed to the most relevant material. It's why when you use Google pictures to search for select content, they've now included the ability to click on related phrases. It's also why the clowns at reddit attempt to mass upvote unflattering pictures of political figures or memes to abuse said algorithms.

YouTube on the otherhand rewrote the ToS and rule set related to tagging material on it's own platform. I wanna say this was back in 2017? Meanwhile, YEARS before that, you used to be able look at what tags a uploaded video used. Clicking the tag would take you to videos using the same key phrases and words, much like the modern day hashtag on Twitter. Problem is people found loop-holes in the system. Tagging your videos with popular channels that are unrelated to the topic, listing pornsites or other lewd aspects etc. It's a system that you have to be highly meticulous with even today. The amount of wannabe e-celebs that tag an upload with JonTron, boobs etc. It's sad but expected.

If you are found to be abusing said tagging system or using no-no words (History, Wrestling and Weaponry focused channels got fucked on this front as they'd often tag terms on a blacklist) you'll either have the video delisted, unable to claim venue or face strikes.

However YouTube in all it's glory are inept at moderating these very guidelines above, just disabled tags from being visible in public and let the bots sweep everything instead. Yay. Alas the only way to find tags now is via third party apps that sell your channel data or right click > inspect and spend ages scrolling for the keywords.

AND WHILE I AM RANTING ABOUT THIS FUCKING PLATFORM

I don't know if it is still the case now, but when you set up a new YouTube account and you state what your main interest is, YouTube would auto-sub you to a bunch of channels they felt would fit. In the case of gaming content, YouTube would auto-sub you to PewDiePie, Game Grumps, KSI, Jacksepticeye, Markiplier, Game Theory and the misc media outlets like IGN and Gametrailers.

It'd legit not be shocked if a hefty percentage of users are completely unaware they are subbed to Game Grumps since your sub inbox is not the default front page anymore

tl:dr: Tag your shit better
 

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It helps that Oney knows a cavalcade of experienced/genuinely good editors who bring their own style and have too much time and not enough money. That and he often swaps out "guests" with whichever friend of his that's available. Love or hate the LP format, Oney brings a variety to his channel most others LP channels couldn't hope to bring.

Even if the grumps bring in GOOD (have to specify because most of their editors are trash) new editors, they often are forced to badly ape Barry or face Arin's autistic wrath for daring to be creative. Creativity which often involves making fun of Dan/Arin because that's all the "good" content you could possibly make with the trash these two chucklefucks shit out onto the editing bay. Not to mention its always just Dan and Arin now, which makes an already stale lunch freeze over into a hunk of shit.

Its hilarious to think that a few years ago GG were very close to doing exactly what Oney does now. But Arin had to be a lazy POS who burned every bridge he could through sheer arrogance.
What, are you saying that having a loud-ass text-to-speech program that talks directly to Arin and Dan in-video completely ruins the flow of the commentary, and that their editors shouldn't be bombarding and stumbling their way into being the unwanted stars of the show by ruining videos most fans even admit is just background noise?

Ta, parish the thought. They'll just do it even more to piss you off then, because they're obviously smarter than you, per working with dear ol' Arin "My job is a chore" Hanson.
 
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Chris is def the better content creator bar none, but I do want to state (to be fair and out of love) that Chris also has a bunch of fucking spergs in his fanbase. If you ever want to see some cringe look at the Oneyplays fan facebook group. It's just the exact same jokes over and over and people trying way too hard to channel Chris energy. Like GG lovelies are fucking exceptional individuals, but the Oneyplays ones that just swarm and flood videos (Seriously just look at the song upload for Liberty by the Pillows) are just as bad.
Aren’t the Uglies super notorious for harassing people because they feel the need to defend the neanderthal or the pervert? Or they just turn the GG’s anger into their anger in general.
Iunno, from what you described of the Oney fanbase, the Uglies sound way worse still.
Otherwise, spot on post.
 

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Chris has better control since he knows the LP stuff is a side thing. Dude is already doing great with responses to Bowlbo and is still being extremely successful. That and the show from it's origin has been about a bunch of people playing games as the backdrop for the conversations they have. Grumps after about a year of two after Danny took over went more for the gameplay over the conversation so it hurt their videos on the long end of the same jokes repeated. Those two mediums can meet and be great, but right now I think many more people are leaning to having background noise and OP has a better flow since it is talking about stuff more so unrelated to the game.

Chris is def the better content creator bar none, but I do want to state (to be fair and out of love) that Chris also has a bunch of fucking spergs in his fanbase. If you ever want to see some cringe look at the Oneyplays fan facebook group. It's just the exact same jokes over and over and people trying way too hard to channel Chris energy. Like GG lovelies are fucking exceptional individuals, but the Oneyplays ones that just swarm and flood videos (Seriously just look at the song upload for Liberty by the Pillows) are just as bad.

I'd say as long as you stick with the videos and keep up with them on a basis you won't see any insane sperging, but the more and more you feel like talking with others on reddit or FB you'll wish you stayed in that safe place haha. The people on KF who post about Oneyplays (especially in this thread) are the ones I enjoy talking to since I think the agreement here is that we watch the video for the people and thankfully Chris and crew (DD&J, and Sleepycabin mates) are really what make the videos better.

But in terms of GG (to get back on topic) the Grumps def have pushed for longer style content (I think in two releases per day).

It does make sense since there's less editing to do for Ben but to also fit the algorithm better. The problem is the content is still fucking shit.
I definitely agree with you there. OneyPlays is GOAT but the fans are unbearable. At least Chris has a good idea of when a joke has run its course and drops it, but the fans definitely don’t. Hell they are still making the Wild Woody rhyming jokes (from this; the original happened in 2016) in fucking 2020. Meme culture ruins everything.
 

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I definitely agree with you there. OneyPlays is GOAT but the fans are unbearable. At least Chris has a good idea of when a joke has run its course and drops it, but the fans definitely don’t. Hell they are still making the Wild Woody rhyming jokes (from this; the original happened in 2016) in fucking 2020. Meme culture ruins everything.
i still watch president cory regularly
 

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A better comparision would be the very first episode. There's always gonna be drop off the more episodes you do. Let's compare the very first Sonic 2 video OneyPlays did.

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The fact OneyPlays gets very similar view counts despite Game Grumps being a channel with a six times bigger subscriber base is pretty funny.

One has to wonder why.

I think we know why.
 

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Didn't see this posted yet, but apparently Arin is voicing a DLC character in Borderlands 3. I look forward to his voice being easily recognizable because he's lazy and has one voice.
 

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Didn't see this posted yet, but apparently Arin is voicing a DLC character in Borderlands 3. I look forward to his voice being easily recognizable because he's lazy and has one voice.
Fuck I thought it was him! I only heard a few of his voice lines so far, but its not terrible. So far he's just the creepy (probably evil) lodge manager. It sounds a little like him, but he does a decent job of delivering the lines. To me it doesn't sound like "Arin trying to do a voice." I was only thinking about it because there's a random guy in the base game that sounds like him too, but I hadn't checked to see if he was credited.
 

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Didn't see this posted yet, but apparently Arin is voicing a DLC character in Borderlands 3. I look forward to his voice being easily recognizable because he's lazy and has one voice.
That makes a change from him literally just playing himself in River City Girls
 
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No matter the size of your channel, YouTube priorities content that has notable engagement per viewer-a-minute, as those statistics present you as viable marketing and advertising space. Additionally as someone who works with YouTube production outlets, it's rather apparent that whoever they've (Grumps) hired to maintain uploads isn't taking advantage/aware of current tagging system or even general word-placement. That said, it should be expected when you hire friends without this type of back-end experience.
SEO is smart-speak for clickbait and hedging people on. You see this shit in even the smallest YouTuber's description, as a way to do the huge text box of random word tags of yesteryear while presenting it as proper text. That's why you see "Markiplier plays Amnesia: Dark Descent on PC in this Let's Play to explore a secret scary mansion in this most horrific and thrilling gameplay and funny moments montage". Much like SEO, everyone is in on it. They know it's required. It's why every other news article this day has 4-5 blue links per page. It drives interaction and makes people click on before they even finish the article.

I've been caught up in a lot of these 20-30 min videos recently, and I can totally see why. It's what, 1/48 of my day put on auto-play, and if the content is good enough, I can click on something in the related box and move on. Most LP channels these days survive solely on the creators themselves, where gameplay takes the backseat. But that requires actual personality and usually camera footage as well. But this also doesn't fit in very well with 20-30 min videos as much as something like 12-15 mins of semi-concentration.

GG fits 'well' into the auto-play genre, but that's not an entertaining format. I think people are subbed to GG because they want semi-daily filler in their feed once they're done watching the content they actually enjoy. It's the same with Joe Rogan. People just watch whatever the fuck he puts out, because that's an hour of the morning the don't have to spend finding things to actually watch. But that's ignoring that GG actually makes dogshit content, but also speaks volumes about their drones actually sitting completely focused on their 30 minute videos with no real content.
 

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I would like nothing for but for Arin to wise up and acknowledge JonTron's success since Arin fired him for boozing (all while turning a blind eye to Danny's sex hobby).

JonTron guest starred on Cinemassacre after leaving Grumps, For God's sake.

All while Arin and Danny get stoned and laugh like kids.