Bruno Mars Cultural Appropriation - He's not black so it doesn't count! Notice me!!

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ADN_VIII

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Well here I was thinking Bruno Mars was black. He certainly sounds like a lot of black pop singers.

I'm pretty sure that the people REEE-ing over this have zero concept of how the market works. I think that the salt over Mars isn't really rooted in the fact that he's not black, but that their chosen black artists aren't as successful. At this point, two conclusions can be made. The first: that the market is racist and holds the black man down. The second: that people don't want to hear music about guns, whores, and drugs.

Dunno about you, but I'm more inclined to believe the second one.
 

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Well, that and people have really, really shitty taste. I know it's the Root and all, but I have to say, finding out that the best selling jazz artist of all time is KENNY G. is really, really fucking disturbing. *shudder*

Also, I'll bet you any amount of money that "Seren Sensei Aishitemasu" also has some badly mis-translated Japanese character tattoo. (Seriously, bitch, if you're calling yourself "sensei" and you're not Asian, then fuck off about cultural appropriation. Go back to watching your little animes)
 

ADN_VIII

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So I thought Seren sounded familiar. She's worked with Gazi Kodzo and helped inspire Milo Stewart as well. She's also a major proponent of a "black economic revolution" where black people only buy from businesses owned by other black people. Her other notable views are that black people should not talk to white people and got that yes all white people hashtag going.

Interestingly, her chosen username is cultural appropriation in a major way. In Japanese, sensei is a title given to an honored or revered teacher that passes their knowledge along to the younger generations. It's not an easy title to come by culturally, regardless of what people who run mcdojos think, and since Seren is neither honored or a teacher of any kind, that puts her on the same level that she accuses Mars of being on.

Frankly, if she doesn't have a thread here she needs one.
 

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In Japanese, sensei is a title given to an honored or revered teacher that passes their knowledge along to the younger generations. It's not an easy title to come by culturally, regardless of what people who run mcdojos think, and since Seren is neither honored or a teacher of any kind, that puts her on the same level that she accuses Mars of being on.
:offtopic: Sensei is pretty much just a title of authority and respect. Every teacher is a sensei, every doctor is a sensei, your senior at work who showed you the ropes is to you a sensei. I suppose there are cases where you could say it has that level of gravitas, but 99 times out of 100 it doesn't really doesn't carry as much weight as you attribute to it.

Bruno Mars is possibly one of the worst targets for calling out on "cultural appropriation". Man is an all-American creole, what the fuck culture is he supposed to conform to? They mentioned Drake, should he be rapping over motherfucking klezmer music? The entire concept of cultural appropriation collapses in the face of anything but pure cultural homogeneity in total isolation, which has never happened in history, but certainly is about as far away from reality as you can get in the country nicknamed the Great Melting Pot. At least with a pasty white dude people probably aren't going to think too hard about it, but the very idea of trying to push a Hispanic, Jewish, Filipino man into a pigeonhole to arbitrarily dictate which genres he should and shouldn't be allowed to perform is enough to discredit the entire line of thought.
 

Tragi-Chan

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This is just the woke version of hipsters. Instead of "it's mainstream, so I don't like it," it's "it's mainstream, so it's problematic somehow."
should he be rapping over motherfucking klezmer music?
 

TowinKarz

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Well here I was thinking Bruno Mars was black. He certainly sounds like a lot of black pop singers.

I'm pretty sure that the people REEE-ing over this have zero concept of how the market works. I think that the salt over Mars isn't really rooted in the fact that he's not black, but that their chosen black artists aren't as successful. At this point, two conclusions can be made. The first: that the market is racist and holds the black man down. The second: that people don't want to hear music about guns, whores, and drugs.

Dunno about you, but I'm more inclined to believe the second one.

Hell, I"ll listen to a song about drugs, guns and women if it's catchy and well made, most songs I really like already are, (i.e. -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4j7ggZqbiU) but someone going "Yeah yeah yeah, uh huh, yeah yeah yeah" over a lazy hook that came out of a synth drum machine with the push of a button ain't it.
 

Dysnomia

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I don't really know who he is. I've heard the name. He's a rapper I guess? I have never heard of Uptown Funk. Whatever genre he sings I don't listen to I guess.

But this "he ain't black so he don't count" thing is getting louder and louder. Blacks are really heavily into colorism even if someone is not mixed but just light. If you aren't dark enough to blend in in the Congo you ain't black.

It used to be that people like Teena Marie and Eminem were generally accepted into black culture. But now since they aren't black it's cultural appropriation. I guess it's Bruno Mars' turn now. I actually thought he was black too. But I can't recall his face.
 

heathercho

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Hey, every nigger -

A while back a K-Pop group called Mamamoo did a cover of a Bruno Mars song and "Black Twitter" cried about "MUH BLACK FACE" coz some Korean girls wore tan makeup to look like the people in Bruno Mars video.
MAMAMOOBlackface.jpg


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So if this nigga isn't a nigga then how can it be blackface?
 

Irwin M. Felcher

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Did you see how some of these people turned on Guillermo Del Toro after his Oscar win, despite the fact he's Hispanic? They all go on about how great Pacific Rim and Shape of Water are, but the moment he won over Jordan Peele, they threw him to the wolves without a second thought.
Wonder how they'd change their tune if they bothered to do even a basic internet search on Peele and found out his mother was 100% cracker.
 

Kled

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It used to be that people like Teena Marie and Eminem were generally accepted into black culture. But now since they aren't black it's cultural appropriation.

Normally, if someone's good at what they do, then they're generally accepted into whatever fray they're trying to appeal to. Eminem used to be a very good rapper when he wasn't trying to "NOTICE ME" at Trump and the general black consensus accepted that. Same for Teena Marie (iirc didn't she die really young and really early in her career? I truly can't remember) and the Beastie Boys and all these other groups. The problem is that black culture is the same as a favorite or expensive toy that blacks see as being super ultra special and don't want people to mess with or play with. You do that, and you end up like the fabled and amazing Wakanda where nothing comes in and nothing comes out and you're essentially playing isolationist because the gathered group has a collective mind that just molds itself into "NO YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT" five year old mentality.

"This is OUR culture! Hands off!"
 

escapegoat

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Wait, VANILLA ICE? Vanilla Ice was popular for maybe, ten minutes and then he's been a joke ever since. Even back when he was popular people thought he was desparate and pathetic.

Right? Plus, his one hit was stealing from rappers, Queen and David Bowie. Equal opportunity thief.

They mentioned Drake, should he be rapping over motherfucking klezmer music?

I have never wished this hard for bad music before .
 

Israel

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Sensei is annoying as fuck! Also because someone ain't as black as you, you're calling him a 'cultural appropriator'? This is some kind of racism between blacks...
 

Dysnomia

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Hey, every nigger -

A while back a K-Pop group called Mamamoo did a cover of a Bruno Mars song and "Black Twitter" cried about "MUH BLACK FACE" coz some Korean girls wore tan makeup to look like the people in Bruno Mars video.
MAMAMOOBlackface.jpg


C6C02d8XEAA06hK.jpg


So if this nigga isn't a nigga then how can it be blackface?

I've actually posted about this type of thing before. Korea isn't the US. The concept of blackface doesn't exist there. And while it causes issues on the national stage K-pop really is mainly for Koreans no matter how popular gets elsewhere. Fans shouldn't expect that a culture different from their own caters to them just because they like the music.

There are actually complaints in the K-pop fan camp about colorism amongst the different singing groups anyway. Saying that darker singers don't get as much promotion and are made fun of by lighter skinned singers. Stuff about skin bleaching and lightening makeup.

The whole colorism thing is getting pretty bad overall. LSA is full of threads complaining about light skinned girls and how they need to start turning down roles. There was some salt over that Yara somebody from Grownish recently. How she's too light to play the characer because of some episode about colorism and how she should have turned down a recent role because she plays a Jamaican woman.

They can complain about blackface all they want. But the real problem today lies in black on black colorism.

Normally, if someone's good at what they do, then they're generally accepted into whatever fray they're trying to appeal to. Eminem used to be a very good rapper when he wasn't trying to "NOTICE ME" at Trump and the general black consensus accepted that. Same for Teena Marie (iirc didn't she die really young and really early in her career? I truly can't remember) and the Beastie Boys and all these other groups. The problem is that black culture is the same as a favorite or expensive toy that blacks see as being super ultra special and don't want people to mess with or play with. You do that, and you end up like the fabled and amazing Wakanda where nothing comes in and nothing comes out and you're essentially playing isolationist because the gathered group has a collective mind that just molds itself into "NO YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT" five year old mentality.

"This is OUR culture! Hands off!"

Eminem truly has become an exceptional individual.

Teena Marie died in 2010. I actually thought she was still around. But she had complications from a head injury. A large picture fell on her in a hotel room years before and she suffered seizures for the rest of her life that likely contributed to her death. She dated Rick James and he abused her. She said he'd purposely whip his braids around near her so the glass beads would hit her in the face and cut her.

The fact that blacks are so obsessed with Wakanda now isn't helping much either. The constant screeching about appropriation and the general fuck whitey attitude just makes you stagnate.
 
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