Dlive / Charles Wayn & Justin Sun / Lino / Lemons / Chinese Crypto Mafia - General discussion of Dlive's infrastructure, shady business, and Cryptoshekelz.

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Dlive as a platform itself greatly interests me. Perhaps they are doing something completely ingenious and new, or perhaps it's a glowing honeypot sham. Since the board hosts various Dlive personalities, I would like to shed light on this weird platform and the masterminds behind it. I could not find anything on Westnet that isn't bitching about "nazis and racists" streaming on the platform, fueled with autistic lefty screeching about worldviews they dislike. Maybe these media outlets can look into the platform themselves and find better information, but no, must cry about racism and fat neckbearded Nazis instead to resonate with their equally retarded readers.

I decided to "reeeeesearch" the platform on Chinanet and found some interesting stuff.

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Note the two peculiar symbols on both sides.
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"Crypto superchats", the Bittorrent icon, and a what coin?
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Tron 4.0, or TRX, or “波場幣” is a cryptoshekel owned by the Chinese cryptocurrency mafia Justin Sun (孫宇晨). He isn't someone you should trust, more on that later.
Bittorrent is also owned by Justin Sun.

Dlive advertises itself as a decentralised platform utilising the "blockchain" for its infrastructure, however it is the most centralised decentralised platform one can imagine. Their "currency", which is "Lino / Lemons" is entirely centralised and controlled by the team. However, according to their terms and services, Lino holds absolutely zero value, making them similar to virtual currency you buy in an online game.


Here's Dlive's CEO, a twink by the name of 王嘉熙, or Charles Wayn.
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王嘉熙 is pronounced "Wang jiah sheeee", so where he got that "Wayn" surname from?
Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charleswayn
Note the term "波場" and the number 4.0 in the poster, which is Justin Sun's crypto, the symbol is shown above. Initially, I thought it was just some weird Chinanet podcast on coins. Turns out they are business partners, so this is effectively a cross-promotion circlejerk. Such is common with modern day online e-commerce.
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While being educated at UC Berkeley is pretty cool, a Bachelor in Science? It's basically a downgraded engineering degree, with no specific expertise. Anyone with an above average IQ can get in one and get out. The average pay for someone holding such a degree is $60k-$90k in Abo Dollars (AUD). Decent, but nothing exceptional compared to his colleague Justin Sun, or 孫宇晨.

Charles did an interview with Tron 4.0, which turns out to be a partner of his, as Dlive recently moved to the "Tron Ecosystem": https://kiwifarms.net/threads/dlive...nd-begins-migration-to-tron-blockchain.64581/

Tron 4.0 (TRX) is Justin Sun's "alt-coin", Justin Sun is a massive cryptololcow, and should be deported back to China and charged with all his crimes. For example, he scammed the American Government, and thus all American taxpayers out of $2,000,000 in coof relief funds. A Chinenet article on Wechat boasts about scamming American taxpayers.
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Tyrone and Jamal won't be interested in Ralph with that twink's existence for sure.
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日前,孙宇晨波场TRON在美团队获得美国薪酬保障计划1700万人民币支持。该款项是新冠疫情下美国政府对本土企业的现金援助,如按要求进行资金使用,则不需要偿还。目前孙宇晨首批1700万人民币补助已到账,第二批现金援助也将在近期进行发放。

薪酬保障计划是美国在新型冠状肺炎(COVID-19)全球疫情期间推出的薪酬保障计划(Paycheck Protection Program,简称PPP),于4月3日开始启动,旨在帮助企业在疫情时免于裁员等,为员工继续足额发放工资、支付房屋租金等,总额度达3490亿美元。

美国薪酬保障计划计划主要对中小企业进行资金援助,在美合规企业可向官方提交申报,进行最高1000万美元的补助申请,也可用于在美新型冠状肺炎(COVID-19)期间企业所遭受的经济损失进行申请。

薪资保护计划允许小型企业申请低息私人贷款,以支付其工资单和某些其他费用。PPP贷款大约等于企业平均每月工资成本的2.5倍。贷款收益可用于支付企业八周的薪资成本,租金,利息和水电费。如果企业保持其雇员人数和雇员工资稳定,则可以部分或全部免除该贷款。该计划由美国小型企业管理局实施。
The translated version in the image is pretty good. It's done my Matthew Graham himself, who is the CEO of Sino Global Capital. A company that focuses on crypto, based in Beijing, where he also resides.

Graham thinks the US government giving Justin Sun coof funds could be construed as an endorsement of Tron 4.0 by the state, by normies in Chinanet. This is pretty pathetic and epitomises the autistic false dichotomy that exists on both ends. Some slimey cryptoslant likely used lawyers and connections to scam coof funds, it has nothing to do with autistic geopolitics.

Another article talking about the scam. LINK ARCHIVE
Earliest western media article. LINK ARCHIVE
Sun, known as Sun Yuchen in China, is thought to be worth some $200 million. He shifted Tron operations to San Francisco after Beijing banned all ICOs and local cryptocurrency exchanges in 2017 to keep a tighter rein on the financial system.
His decentralized media empire also comprises live-streaming site DLive and US peer-to-peer file-sharing company, Bittorrent. He recently acquired Steemit Inc., the company that developed the Reddit-like forum, and plans to move Steemit onto Tron.

But Sun is also famed for grandiose announcements, and publicity stunts. Perhaps it’s too much to hope that this is just another of those.

With millions of Americans fucked out of their jobs and small business suffering without swift government aid, Justin Sun, the ally of Dlive took a nice $2,000,000 cheque. This man spent $4.5 million to have a dinner with Warren Buffett and his net worth is projected to be $200 million, does he need $2 million in coof relief? To be fair, other massive companies took countless millions in coof relief as well, they are a private company and they can do what they want, that's why they can harvest your sweat and blood while you're coofing your organs out. It's said that there's no evidence regarding to the coof funds, so this could be yet another publicity stunt by the Chinese grifter.

Justin Sun claims he's mentored by Jack Ma of Alibaba group, which is untrue. Their whitepaper is plagiarised, something common among Chinese. Their technology is meh at best, and Justin Sun loves to market himself heavily. He is very concerned about his public image, his mianzi. There's a meme in cryptocoin circles of "announcing an announcement".

The more I look into this guy, the less trustworthy he is. Justin Sun also ran a Tesla car giveaway, and got a lot of flack.
Justin Sun, founder and CEO of blockchain platform Tron, keeps drawing the ire of the cryptocurrency community onto himself. In his never ending quest to get as many Twitter followers as possible, he has decided that no price is too high, and is giving away a Tesla car, as well as a total of USD 20 million in an airdrop. However, the community believes he may be playing dirty, supposedly repeating the draws until he is satisfied with the winner - and until that winner is not a bot, seemingly created specifically to boost his follower count.


Updated: On Friday, Justin Sun announced that "for full community transparency, we decided to cancel the previous result and do a live stream draw instead."


This time, they picked a new winner, leaving the previous winner (@uzgaroth) perplexed and wondering whether Justin Sun and Tron "scammed him".


Meanwhile, Tron founder offered to the previous winner a fully paid round-trip ticket to the niTron summit in 2020 instead of Tesla.

Justin Sun's twitter followers are mostly bots.
Tron founder Justin Sun has gained an enthusiastic response around his crypto giveaways, with such tweets often reaching thousands of “likes” and retweets. However, some of the engagement could be a result of artificial Twitter bots, according to one data scientist.


“We've seen Justin Sun turn up occasionally in our research on fake engagement networks, so we started pursuing his followers to see what there is to see, and found an interesting little group of batch-created accounts,” the data scientist tweeted on Thursday.

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Justin Sun's associates allegedly hacked "Dorami", some kimchituber slant who plays video games.

Justin Sun's livestreams get over 30k viewers! That's 100 times more than the Memphis pig Ethan Oliver Ralph. Oh wait, there's a livechat that's on a loop?
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He's been on a stage for 20 hours? Some endurance there, champ. Totally not a farce.

Justin Sun's partners in Beijing had a warm visit by the Chinese police, at their headquarters. Western media called it a raid, some later peddled back the claims, calling it a check. I looked into the incident and I can safely say it's just a visit. Police raids in China is equivalent to a SWATting, they will smash down the door with something and run in armed. The visit was due to picketing from Chinese crypto-grabblers that got sucked into a massive ponzi scheme, scammed many millions. While Justin Sun wasn't behind the scam, apparently, he didn't stop it diligently either, causing one suicide. Ultimately, the scam did benefit Justin Sun, which is perhaps why he didn't care.
When the Wave Field Super Community scam appeared on Chinese social media sites earlier in the year, investors appealed to Justin Sun for clarification. The scammers claimed to be one of TRON’s Super Representatives – node operators who maintain the TRX blockchain.

Sun finally spoke up regarding the crypto scam – but only after it was much too late. By the time of the following tweet on July 5th, $30 million had been extracted from thousands of investors, and one woman had died by her own hand.
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The dates are too uncomfortably close to a recent news article on Chinanet, where a couple killed themselves after killing their daughter due to 20 million yuan losses in "bitcoin".
  • The dad slit his daughter's throat, wrapped her corpse and jumped into the ocean with his wife
  • The dad was rescued, daughter and wife dead
  • He practiced the execution on a plush toy first, then "reluctantly" killed his daughter
  • The couple decided to kill their child due to a delusion of "sharing afterlife together". If an afterlife exists, they'd be both rotting in hell and the innocent daughter in heaven.
  • He "regrets his crimes" and wished to take on the full punishment. Blames the death of his wife on himself too.
  • Worth noting, bitcoin has been climbing in value. What did this fucking retard kill his daughter for then?
I don't think this is the same suicide due to the TRX 4.0 supercommunity ponzi scheme, but it's too close.

Justin Sun got axed on Weibo, lol.
戲精 means drama whore.
韭菜 or chives, refers to normies being harvested for money. Sort of like corn, where the gunt is harvested for laughter, or lolcows being milked. One of the best Chinanet memes in existence.
蹭熱度 means grifting for clout.
流量大師 means a waste of bandwidth.
I cannot explain how funny the article is, however, translating it into English will make it sound autistic. Anyway, he got axed for being a retarded grifting lolcow stirring up gay drama, and people got sick of it, sort of like Twitter banning Laura Loomer. Everyone laughed and cheered on.

Justin Sun is involved in Binance.
He got into a spat with Ethereum.
Justin Sun grifted his way into, and took over Steemit.
Justin Sun got into a spat with Hive.

The interview I found was posted on the 7th of July, 2020. As with all closed media goes, it's shills and shills, shills everywhere! Western Blockchain media shills Justin Sun's shit to oblivion, while he is absolutely hated in Chinanet coincircles, many of which don't try to hide their dislike of Justin. So much for independent journalism. At least the MSM no longer try to hide biases and can't just be bought out. LinkedIn labels Charles' location as "San Fran Bay area". The CEO of Dlive and their partner Justin Sun are both in America. This isn't a Chinese lemon harvest, it's far, far worse. At least Chinese lemons are sour and probably riddled with pesticites, Dlive's lemons are as good as air.

What is Charles Wayn's opinion on Freedom of Speech?

He supports free speech, but Dlive isn't a free speech platform, as we have all known by now. So what does he want to cultivate Dlive into? The interviews I found says it all. Some suspicions are confirmed too.

I was able to find 2 noteworthy interviews. The first one talks about Bittorrent integration with Tron 4.0, the second one is about Dlive.
Irene Wang:我们要紧跟现有的趋势,同时也希望在未来安全方面能够获得长足发展。接下来请BitTorrent产品与工程负责人Justin Knoll,演讲主题:Tron4.0与BitTorrent的双剑合璧。



Justin Knoll:我现在在线大家可以听见吗,现在开始演讲并共享屏幕。非常感谢主持人,非常感谢邀请我参加今天的大会,分享在过去一年当中BitTorrent所取得的发展,尤其是基于波场TRON整个生态系统以及我们的用户。



首先,我在开始部分想跟大家探讨一下,关于现在BitTorrent所进行的一些产品更新。第一个就是BTT代币,这个是去年上市的,接下来是我们未来的一个产品发展路径;第二个部分为大家分享一下BTFS文件存储系统,同时也包括里面的一个概述以及主机接口和产品分布图。再次感谢盛情邀请我来参加这次分享会,跟大家分享BitTorrent的产品。

BitTorrent其实是现在非常出名的平台,同时我们也是分布式的平台,我们是基于区块链的技术,基于某种共识形成这样分布式的系统平台。接下来详细介绍BTT代币,在这个系统当中,整个用户可以进行文件的下载,通过使用BTT代币可以有更快的下载速度。在过去数年中,BitTorrent发展速度极其迅速,可以看到,我们现在已经实现了BTT代币的快速流通。其实BTT代币有三个主要组成部分:一个是BitTorrent客户端,是最受欢迎的客户端,拥有大概一亿月活用户,第二就是我们刚才提到BTT,也就是我们的代币,主要是用于加速一种交换的媒介,比如说我们在下载整个文件的时候,可以用BTT进行相应的交换,也可以将它作为一种货币来进行产品的交易。最后一个重要组成部分就是波场TRON,区块链解决方案可以用BitTorrent和BTT连接用户。

现在看到的是BitTorrent客户端,我们推出很多客户端,已经将客户的体验深度融入客户端当中,这也是非常受欢迎的一块儿产品。现在我们用户的体验也是非常丰富的。说到第二个部分,就是我们的钱包。其实,在我们整个BitTorrent应用当中,钱包也是非常重要一环,它为用户提供了很好的体验。这样的话,我们可以保证客户的资产安全性,同时他们也可以在整个钱包当中进行代币交易。此外,对于BitTorrent客户也有着独特的体验,用户可以参与到我们整体活跃当中,在下载文件的同时上传相应的一些资源,这样有利于其他用户进行资源下载,这是我们整个过程。



基于以上我们所讲的这些内容,可以看到2020年整个BitTorrent Speed用户增长是非常显著的,截止2020年7月,月活用户量已经达到3200万。我们对于产品的的速度性能也进行过相关的测定,通过这样一个机制,我们已经可以实现文件的快速传输。



在这个图表当中,我们可以看到我们进行的一个速度测定,传输1%的平均速度是多少,5%的时候平均速度又是多少,20%还有我们传输整个文件的时候,它的平均速度都是多少。随着我们文件下载的数量越多,整个速度其实是越快的。

我们可以看到,整个速度测定达到较优的结果,可能不太好理解,我们下载前1%有不同的颜色,最开始深的颜色代表速度较慢,后来5%、20%颜色越来越浅,速度越来越快。这个部分是非常有趣的,我们从左到右研究图表,左边是5%的进度,相应是下载速度,随着我们使用BTT代币下载越来越多的文件,比如到了75%、100%,可以看到很明显的加速。从左边到右边随着文件数量下载的增多,它的速度其实是得到了明显的提高,它的性能也逐渐得到增强。所以,我们得出结论,在我们整个上面所说的带宽环境以及其他条件的影响下,我们整体性能都是非常好的。

接下来,BitTorrent发展是怎样一个途径呢,可以看一下我们产品路线图。从2020年第一个季度,可以看到BitTorrent钱包有了相应的发展,在整个用户体验中,通过钱包每天都会有数千名用户新增到应用当中。因为我们有很多不同的功能,确实是比较前沿的,也吸引了很多新兴用户。之前也有提到,我们现在有很多钱包应用,同时也建立了很多相应的机制进行用户间的支付、交易等等,开展了很多相应的活动。

还有就是BTFS,我们又进一步的深化和融合。接下来我们说一下BTFS,它是一个去中心化的存储系统,也是一个去中心化应用的基础平台。在这个平台当中,我们一方面可以存储文件,另一方面也可以通过代币方式获得相应的收益。现在可以在Windows和其他操作系统下载BitTorrent文件系统。

从图片中我们可以看到,这个文件系统有几个部分,有BitTorrent客户端,同时还有分布式的存储,如果我们想用BTFS来存储文件,还需要BTT代币来进行相应的活动。同时,我们还有波场TRON区块链作为底层的基础,波场TRON提供了一些尖端技术,为我们整个应用的实现打下良好的基础。

接下来看整个文件系统三个重要组成部分,第一个就是闲置存储资源,在我们个人的电脑当中每个人都有硬件的驱动,可能都有一些闲置的资源或未被使用的存储容量;第二个重要组成部分是代币,有加密代币用于加速交换媒介;还有波场TRON。接下来我们怎么使用闲置存储资源呢?首先要有主机进行相应的设定,比如说将计算机本地存储空间连接到BTFS网络上面,可以赚取相应BTT代币,我们可以自己进行主机设定,来选择主机存储空间,然后每次左右滑动代表主机滑块,我们可以看到我们现在有多少存储空间,同时相应的存储空间可以带给我们多少潜在的BTT收益。



其实,我们可以看到现在我们整个文件系统,月活使用量也有一个显著的增长。现在可以看到BTFS节点分布图,我们拥有这种优势,BTFS发展相应的生态系统可以有不同的节点,每个用户可以选择不同的节点进行下载。BTFS也可以帮助我们存储在不同的节点,所以大家可以看到这是我们在全球范围内进行的一个相应的渗透。

这张PPT展示了BTFS未来的路线图,第一季度到第三季度计划,未来希望能够在Q2保证推出UI测试版,计划还包括让UI进一步优化,让它更加稳定,并且把文件系统用户体验方面进行优化,让更多的用户能够进行BTFS贡献,并且能够通过我们的鼓励计划获得BTT代币奖励。

这就是我今天所有的讲话,希望大家关注我们。未来我们能够带来更好的产品,谢谢大家。



Irene Wang:非常感谢您带来的非常棒的介绍,波场TRON 4.0其实对于BitTorrent未来有更好的发展机会。对于BitTorrent的计划,我个人也是非常期待,因为我自己长期以来也是BitTorrent的一个忠实用户,我也希望能够看到BitTorrent在波场TRON的助力下有更好的产品带给我们。

Instead of translating the entire thing, here's some dot points:
  • The storage of Dlive, its tech infrastructure is decentralised, based on the BTFS system.
  • BitTorrent, the BTT token, and Tron 4.0 (TRX) are all owned by Justin Sun, so this interview is basically a circlejerk.
  • BitTorrent has 32 million active users, and will bring faster streaming speeds (nigga plz, Dlive is slow as fuck)
  • They then yammer about BitTorrent's tech and download speeds accumulating, I presume as more seeders are in the cycle blahblah. They cited a graph, no where to be found

Irene Wang:有请 DLive CEO 王嘉熙,跟大家讲讲,去中心化直播平 DLive 在波场 4.0 时代的发展方向及落地应用。

王嘉熙:大家好,我是王嘉熙,大家可以通过我们的屏幕看今天的大会,我非常开心能够参加到波场 4.0 全球大会当中来分享 DLive 的一些情况,也分享对区块链整体行业的一些看法。

首先给大家介绍一下 DLive 服务于全球的相关内容。DLive 致力于去体现创作者和观看者这两边的贡献和价值,创建革新性的系统。通过这个系统,观众可以从他们最喜欢的内容创建者当中获得一些奖励。现在,它的用户遍布全球,是土耳其的第二大流媒体平台,每个月有 700 万活跃用户,我们正在努力把平 DLive 平台带到其他国家和地区。

DLive 在 2017 年推出,2018 年 9 月份,DLive 转移到 Lino 区块链,这是为我们准备的区块链。在 2019 年 4 月份我们签署了一个流媒体合约,在全球有超过一亿的订阅量。在 2019 年 12 月的时候,我们加入 BitTorrent 家族,成为波场 TRON 生态的一员,我们从中获得了与 BitTorrent 更多的产品融合的机会,现在我们的月活用户已经超过 700 万,而且我们的市场在全球很多地方都有触及,是土耳其的三大流媒体巨头之一。

2019 年的 12 月,自从我们加入了 BitTorrent 的家族之后,我们整体的用户增长量从去年到现在已经翻了一倍。现在有超过 15 万的内容制造商在 DLive 这个平台上面创造各种各样的流媒体内容。

DLive 与其他平台到底有什么样的区别呢?首先,内容创作者可以更好地从中获利,因为我们有很大的用户群,所以内容有更好的触及和曝光。第二,观看者可以获得奖励,DLive 用户可以从中获得奖励箱,开箱可以获得一些奖励,这样就可以使得每一个观看者有更高的黏性。

除此之外,DLive 还推出了每个人都可以从社区成长当中获得一部分利润这样一个功能,我认为这是我们独有的一个特点。通过 BTT 质押,BTT 持有者从 DLive 可以获得大量的收益,他们对于我们来讲就像是股东一样,因为他们可以从中获得订阅费用 25% 的利润,所有这些持有者都可以获得一些分红,我们的年收益对于所有的 BTT 年化收益率 20.01,BTT 持有者在 DLive 平台投资收益率非常高,而且现在对 DLive 用户我们给予的鼓励政策力度也是非常大的。

未来我们与波场 4.0 生态系统有怎样的整合计划呢?第一点,我想说我们的一些解决方案,我们已经支持 BTFS 的解决方案,并且它已经适用所有 DLive 内容创建者。我们可以看到一些 DLive 内容创建者他们现在上传内容,下面会有分布式存储的标签,带有标签的内容就表明它已经使用这个功能。之后,我们会将 BTFS 分布式存储功能向更多 DLive 的内容创建者、使用者推广,希望最终所有的用户都能够使用上这个功能。

接下来,我们的另一个目标就是希望能够进行一个更好的产品集成,就是把 BitTorrent 和 uTorrent 集成,希望集成到用户桌面上面,大家把 BT 桌面应用或者安卓、苹果 BT,还有 uTorrent 应用,全部通过一个应用接入 DLive 的内容和视频。这样的话,DLive 用户和内容创建者就可以得到更好的曝光。

之后希望在今年晚些时候,我们也希望能够与 Steemit 进行更好的集成,希望在网站一键可以直达 DLive 的平台。未来有什么计划?第一步更加关注于现在的市场,像美国、土耳其、巴西市场,今年第四季度会开始努力触达其他的国家,比如印度、俄罗斯等等,现在还做一些研究去进行成本对比,还有未来一些市场目标分析。但是,我们现在确实有市场扩展的计划。

最后一点也是很重要的一点,我们希望让自己的视频内容类别更加多样化,现在 80% 的 DLive 内容都是与游戏相关的,但是之后我们希望能够加入更多不同的内容,比如像 LOL,或者更加偏日常的一些内容。

最后,就是我们的 DLive 空投,我们会通过 DLive 的平台,也就是 DLive.tv 这个平台给大家推出 1000 个柠檬币,如果准备好我现在就要分发这个空投,三二一马上开始。OK,我们现在已经发送奖励,所有 DLive 用户现在已经能够看到弹窗界面,如果用我们的网站或者 APP,手机上会出现弹窗,首先要订阅我们的频道,在三秒之后现在能看到这笔空投,现在我们就要分发这笔奖励金了,现在已经分发完了。10 万个柠檬币发送给各位粉丝,一共 10 万,不是 1000 是 10 万。我们非常感谢大家使用 DLive,以上就是我对于 DLive 所有的介绍,谢谢各位。

Irene Wang:非常感谢,我们现在看到 DLive 有了很大一部分的升级,它现在已经成为一个非常去中心化的区块链流媒体平台,非常感谢。

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首先给大家介绍一下 DLive 服务于全球的相关内容。DLive 致力于去体现创作者和观看者这两边的贡献和价值,创建革新性的系统。通过这个系统,观众可以从他们最喜欢的内容创建者当中获得一些奖励。现在,它的用户遍布全球,是土耳其的第二大流媒体平台,每个月有 700 万活跃用户,我们正在努力把平 DLive 平台带到其他国家和地区。
Dlive's system is unique, one of its kind. The viewers get rewarded through consuming content they like. There's viewers from across the globe, 7 million active ones. Second largest streaming platform in Turkey. They want to introduce Dlive to other countries. (Please don't)


DLive 在 2017 年推出,2018 年 9 月份,DLive 转移到 Lino 区块链,这是为我们准备的区块链。在 2019 年 4 月份我们签署了一个流媒体合约,在全球有超过一亿的订阅量。在 2019 年 12 月的时候,我们加入 BitTorrent 家族,成为波场 TRON 生态的一员,我们从中获得了与 BitTorrent 更多的产品融合的机会,现在我们的月活用户已经超过 700 万,而且我们的市场在全球很多地方都有触及,是土耳其的三大流媒体巨头之一。

2019 年的 12 月,自从我们加入了 BitTorrent 的家族之后,我们整体的用户增长量从去年到现在已经翻了一倍。现在有超过 15 万的内容制造商在 DLive 这个平台上面创造各种各样的流媒体内容。
Dlive moved to the Lino blockchain in September last year. They signed some sort of streaming agreement in April, with over 100 million subscribers (pewdiepie?). They integrated into the "BitTorrent family" and adopted the Tron ecosystem in December, 2019. They claimed after joining the BitTorrent family, their viewers doubled, now with over 150k.

Surely, has nothing to do with right wing catboy lovers.

Then, Charles compares Dlive with other platforms.

DLive 与其他平台到底有什么样的区别呢?首先,内容创作者可以更好地从中获利,因为我们有很大的用户群,所以内容有更好的触及和曝光。第二,观看者可以获得奖励,DLive 用户可以从中获得奖励箱,开箱可以获得一些奖励,这样就可以使得每一个观看者有更高的黏性。

除此之外,DLive 还推出了每个人都可以从社区成长当中获得一部分利润这样一个功能,我认为这是我们独有的一个特点。通过 BTT 质押,BTT 持有者从 DLive 可以获得大量的收益,他们对于我们来讲就像是股东一样,因为他们可以从中获得订阅费用 25% 的利润,所有这些持有者都可以获得一些分红,我们的年收益对于所有的 BTT 年化收益率 20.01,BTT 持有者在 DLive 平台投资收益率非常高,而且现在对 DLive 用户我们给予的鼓励政策力度也是非常大的。

未来我们与波场 4.0 生态系统有怎样的整合计划呢?第一点,我想说我们的一些解决方案,我们已经支持 BTFS 的解决方案,并且它已经适用所有 DLive 内容创建者。我们可以看到一些 DLive 内容创建者他们现在上传内容,下面会有分布式存储的标签,带有标签的内容就表明它已经使用这个功能。之后,我们会将 BTFS 分布式存储功能向更多 DLive 的内容创建者、使用者推广,希望最终所有的用户都能够使用上这个功能。

接下来,我们的另一个目标就是希望能够进行一个更好的产品集成,就是把 BitTorrent 和 uTorrent 集成,希望集成到用户桌面上面,大家把 BT 桌面应用或者安卓、苹果 BT,还有 uTorrent 应用,全部通过一个应用接入 DLive 的内容和视频。这样的话,DLive 用户和内容创建者就可以得到更好的曝光。

之后希望在今年晚些时候,我们也希望能够与 Steemit 进行更好的集成,希望在网站一键可以直达 DLive 的平台。未来有什么计划?第一步更加关注于现在的市场,像美国、土耳其、巴西市场,今年第四季度会开始努力触达其他的国家,比如印度、俄罗斯等等,现在还做一些研究去进行成本对比,还有未来一些市场目标分析。但是,我们现在确实有市场扩展的计划。

最后一点也是很重要的一点,我们希望让自己的视频内容类别更加多样化,现在 80% 的 DLive 内容都是与游戏相关的,但是之后我们希望能够加入更多不同的内容,比如像 LOL,或者更加偏日常的一些内容。
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  • Creators make more money, because they have lots of views which translated to exposure and growth. (Untrue)
  • Viewers get a kickback, prompting them to stick around more often (chests of air lemons?)
  • Dlive users get a portion of Dlive's profits. They are like stakeholders to us, as they get 25% profits from the subscription fees (I don't understand how this works).
  • They have integrated the blockchain into streaming and they aim to consolidate BitTorrent and uTorrent, which brings better experience and exposure to creators. They also want to integrate Steemit into their platform in the future.
  • Dlive has been highly profitable. (Why and how?)
  • Their main markets are Brazil, Turkey, and America. They aim to get into the Indian and Russian market too. Time to show bobs and vagene.
  • They want to diversify their content, as 80% now are gaming related. They would like to get more involved in esports such as LOL has host "irl oriented" shit as well. (I don't really believe this claim, 80% gaming?)
  • Charles dropped 100k lemons afterwards.
Charles envisions a platform that competes with twitch, not a platform which panders to fat alcoholics and catboy lovers. This begs the question, why would anyone use Dlive when Twitch already exists? Dlive has a smidgen more of free speech at best. They censor stickers, just like Twitch, they also control speech. I suppose they aren't as bad as Twitch, which bans users for saying "2 genders" and for what they do outside of the platform, but think about it... if Dlive gets say 20% of twitch's audience, what would they do? They will hammer down on speech further, since Dlive in a Silicon Valley start-up that wants to attract investors.

Here's the distribution of Lino:

1. The developers don't make money through creator's content (directly). The creators don't get a cut taken.
2. Lino's developers and overhead does require funding.
3. The platform will be slowly decentralised. They aim to open moderation up to users to promote growth.
Lino's distribution is of following, for each Lino generated:
  • 65% goes to service providers and overhead
  • 10% goes to developers
  • 10% goes to "node validation" (I don't know what the fuck this is)
  • 5% goes to users/viewers of the platform
The platform does not take a cut from donations, which are in Lino/Lemons. The income comes from ads and other services. Streamers can see the amount of donations, and users will get a kickback in the form of Lino. Developers get their share from moderation and "node voting"???

Dlive's entire basis for their platform, is that creator's income won't see a cut. YouTube/Twitch takes over 20% of donation/superchat. So in theory, people on Dlive do make more money. However, the entire platform is pretty much stagnant and growth isn't warranted at all.
 
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I'm guessing node validation is similar to what bitcoin node validation is, and some information on that can be found here, or here I think you are basically mining, or validating transactions within the network, but without creating new coins and receiving them as a reward?

I think that "node voting" refers to voting for "validators". In the words of the Lino documentation (archive): "Lino Blockchain relies on a set of validators to secure the network. The role of a validator is to run a full node and participate in consensus by broadcasting a cryptographic signature signed by its private key. Validators verify messages and commit new blocks to the blockchain and receive message fees and Validator Rewards in return."

I don't know much about the crypto-shekel, so if I'm wrong I apologise. Great OP though.
 

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I don't have it saved although it's on page 1633 of the general thread.

Post in thread 'Ethan Ralph / TheRalphRetort' https://kiwifarms.net/threads/ethan-ralph-theralphretort.16672/post-7065826
Holy shit, that's a boatload. Thanks for the link. I'll include it all in the top post later under spoilers. This means the top post needs some (major) restructuring, since I'm fucking autistic when it comes to formats.

From the CEO's instagram, he seems to be pretty normal and active with some average normie hobbies. Really wonder why he decided to run an autistic site for wignats and import roaches to do work. They even have meetings in Turkey.

Considering how Chinanet see Turks as goblins, this is an interesting duo.
(Some thot was talking about how Turkey is freer on Chinanet, people responded to her with Goblin Slayer gifs and hentai, based and slantpilled)
 

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Seeing how China is cracking down on Jack Ma, I can say that Sun's and Wang's (I am not going to use Wayn) days are numbered at least in China.
There's no way Justin Sun can go back to China without being arrested, his wealth started from exploiting gray area laws when crypto was new. That said, didn't Jack Ma and Pony Ma just won some "leader of progress" reward? I know the owner of a pretty big anime/figurine/weeb oriented shopping mall, loosely translated into "Anime bunker", they basically got destroyed by Taobao (online e-commerce in general).

Big surprise, weebs... don't want to leave their bunkers.
 

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That said, didn't Jack Ma and Pony Ma just won some "leader of progress" reward?
Yes, but public opinion is turning against them. China's opinion makers and online video channels commenting on China's domestic politics have done many videos decrying Jack Ma's attempts to lobby for a liberalisaton of the financial sector. 司马南 being one example.

If he succeeded, he would have more grey areas and loopholes to take advantage of and China will be run the risk of having a 2008 style financial crisis.

Already they are digging into his forays into e-financing and how he is trying to earn money by encouraging people to take up microloans with high interest that they don't need.

Pony Ma and his Tencent might be next considering how he has a stranglehold over Chinese social media like Jack Dorsey over the US's. If Pony threatens the Party like how Jack Ma threatened China's regulatory authorities then he might end up like Jack Ma.
 
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I'm guessing node validation is similar to what bitcoin node validation is, and some information on that can be found here, or here I think you are basically mining, or validating transactions within the network, but without creating new coins and receiving them as a reward?

I think that "node voting" refers to voting for "validators". In the words of the Lino documentation (archive): "Lino Blockchain relies on a set of validators to secure the network. The role of a validator is to run a full node and participate in consensus by broadcasting a cryptographic signature signed by its private key. Validators verify messages and commit new blocks to the blockchain and receive message fees and Validator Rewards in return."

I don't know much about the crypto-shekel, so if I'm wrong I apologise. Great OP though.
There's documentation on how 'Lino' validation works here:
I haven't bothered to really understand it, the most important bit is that to act as a validator you need to lock in at least 100,000 lemons (about $1,200 US), and possibly a whole lot more than that. So it's basically a way to get people to lock themselves into the shitcoin.

I don't believe there's really any mathematical problems being solved in the Lino block 'validation' process, it's just a bunch of computers owned by people who bought into the shitcoin marking transactions that DLive forwards to them as approved.

This differs from say, BitCoin or Monero, in that in those actual cryptocurrencies rewards go to those who complete complex mathematical problems, and 'validator nodes' are just nodes run by people who want a really reliable source of information on who owns what, and who for that purpose alone, and not necessarily to benefit anyone beyond themselves, essentially 'check the working' of the miners whose computers actually solved the math problems. They don't get rewards for that.

But who knows, I might be missing the point.
 
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Dlive is currently tabulating rankings for holiday donations.

Ethan's top paypig, TBased, is also top sitewide by an order of magnitude:

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With regards to creators, Ethan is rattling his tin cup for scraps, beneath even Baked, who makes most of his money through direct donations:

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Holy fucking shit the 2nd and 3rd added up and doubled doesn't even come close to that Turk.

Assuming he pays for lemons, that's $3547 in the matter of just a day or two? That's fortnightly, or monthly pay for someone with a good job, and weekly for someone doing very high end shit.
I'll be 100% honest, I am quite jealous. Someone with that much money to spend on a shithole website must be living the dream. If one has $3600 to piss away on fringe grifters, I can only imagine how much his actual job yields.

Or, something shady is going on.
 

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Holy fucking shit the 2nd and 3rd added up and doubled doesn't even come close to that Turk.

Assuming he pays for lemons, that's $3547 in the matter of just a day or two? That's fortnightly, or monthly pay for someone with a good job, and weekly for someone doing very high end shit.
I'll be 100% honest, I am quite jealous. Someone with that much money to spend on a shithole website must be living the dream. If one has $3600 to piss away on fringe grifters, I can only imagine how much his actual job yields.

Or, something shady is going on.
My theory was that he comes from oil money. But I have also seen people make chargebacks because they used the wrong decimal (granted that's on streamlabs but the principle may apply).

Ralph found a true and honest Nigerian Prince.
 

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My theory was that he comes from oil money. But I have also seen people make chargebacks because they used the wrong decimal (granted that's on streamlabs but the principle may apply).

Ralph found a true and honest Nigerian Prince.
I do know someone that works as a system integrator and engineer at a state owned oil enterprise in that region.
Saying he makes a million a year is an underestimation. From my knowledge, it's low 8 digits.

If that's the case, Ralph and Dlive is truly blessed. We know Dlive has a team and associates in Turkey.

That is what I am leaning towards. Some user said the BTC payments might be from some paypig who was into Bitcoin very early when it was very cheap but for him and TBased to gift so many parties cryptocurrency is what I find suspicious.
Why not just invest in a business, or real estate. Hell, spending it on a fruitful hobby (not audio) ranging from photography to trading cards is a better investment than pissing it away on some grifter. Oh well. Justin Sun was one of the early bitcoin adopters too, he's prolific in Chinese coin circles, the proto-cryptololcow.
 

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That was a really interesting read. I think you did more journalism than news outlook ever did when writing about DLive. For example, here is an article from fucking Time. Not Vox or something out of The Young Turks but Time.


This article is massive and says next to nothing. I can sum it up in a few short sentences. DLive has lots of white supremacist's on it. Nick Fuentes is on DLive and is bad. Children use the internet and might get told wrong think if they click a bad video. Here are 5 nobodies that say DLive only cares about money and a doctor that confirms Children use the internet. Youtube bans Nazis. America First and Groypers are things the alt-right says. Nick Fuentes said Kamilla Harris hates white people. No mention of Ralph though.

Do people actually read these things?
 

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"They signed some sort of streaming agreement in April, with over 100 million subscribers (pewdiepie?)"

Yep. Pewdiepie did sign some contracts with them. Didn't know how long he was there on the platform until he starts streaming on Youtube
 

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That was a really interesting read. I think you did more journalism than news outlook ever did when writing about DLive. For example, here is an article from fucking Time. Not Vox or something out of The Young Turks but Time.


This article is massive and says next to nothing. I can sum it up in a few short sentences. DLive has lots of white supremacist's on it. Nick Fuentes is on DLive and is bad. Children use the internet and might get told wrong think if they click a bad video. Here are 5 nobodies that say DLive only cares about money and a doctor that confirms Children use the internet. Youtube bans Nazis. America First and Groypers are things the alt-right says. Nick Fuentes said Kamilla Harris hates white people. No mention of Ralph though.

Do people actually read these things?
they do! and they also prevent that massive boomer audience, streaming about or watching streams about making charlie brown cookies or some shit away from joining , and zoomers read them, and prevents them from coming on to stream or watch people make fortnite cookies.
 

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Serious question from those who have done a deep dive. Does any of these large amounts of money moving around look like money laundering?

I have always thought it was shady how the monetary system works. The most notable is how the donated lemons and then the final amount can be drastically different. Even after Dlive has supposedly taken their cut.

The system seems like it can frought with fraud and the new system they are talking about offering seems as a way to offer snuff porn and other illegal videos to a viewer base and to make cash off it.
 
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