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James Damore et al v. Google LLC (2017)

Discussion in 'Lolcow & Lolcow LLP' started by mindlessobserver, Jan 9, 2018.

  1. Next step in completely eliminating all worker's rights is making you sign an arbitration agreement even to get an interview. Then they could literally just say "we aren't hiring whites/blacks/Jews/whatever" and then if you complained, send you to their rigged "neutral" arbitrator, who since they know what side their bread's buttered on, will never rule against what are effectively their owners.
     
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  2. It's a misconception that they're only looking at market share, which is a common thread for monopoly breakups. For AT&T specifically, what the government wanted to do was to break up the vertical integration AT&T had, because they actually manufactured telephones as well under their Western Electric subsidiary (legally, up until this time, your telephone, should you be in AT&T territory, wasn't legally yours--Western Electric rented it to you). AT&T didn't want to lose their cash cow, so they spun off some of their operating companies as independent companies. Vertical integration is one of the reasons why the AT&T/TimeWarner deal faced scrutiny, if AT&T should own both TV channels (Turner Broadcasting System) and the service itself (DirecTV). Same thing for Microsoft, it wasn't that they had 95% (or whatever, can't remember the exact numbers) of the desktop OS market share, it involved the integration of Windows and Internet Explorer, which they almost lost had an appeals court not overturned the ruling on a technicality, allowing Microsoft to draft a compromise that would keep it solvent as one company.
     
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  3. Here's an interesting leak from over on Reddit, where someone is talking about how badly Google bungled the situation. I can't verify it though.

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    EDIT: Archived link
     
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  4. This stuff does have the ring of truth to it. I hate to say for sure, because a lot of times these anons may be people who actually do know something but pad out what they know with other stuff, but it really rings true with that outrageous bullshit NLRB memo, which I think was discussed here.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/nlrb-decision-james-damore-lawsuit-google/

    Seriously, this memo is garbage and reads like a press release Google itself would be ashamed to release so put it in someone else's mouth.
     
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  5. Please link and archive
     
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  6. Too good to be true. Fake. It reads like the Illuminati doing a press release on how they were the second gunman for the Kennedy assassination.
     
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  7. Damore himself says it contains details only he or someone at Google would know. So it very well may be someone at Google (or Damore himself or someone friendly to him posting with or without his knowledge).
     
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  8. The Dragonfly bit is rather telling. That isn't something just anyone would know. As Damore himself said only 100 people knew of it. And as has been observed while Damore knew of it, he kept that info very private. So whoever drafted this is either one of those 100 (most likely a member of Damore's team), someone higher in the organization with awareness of the project, or it's a plant by Damore himself. Because even after the lid blew off Dragonfly, even casual employees would not know who the 100 individuals inside the company were that knew of and worked on it. And with Damore long gone, his name would not be on any current rumors regarding it. The only people who would know he was involved were himself, his fellow 100 team members, and the Google legal and HR management team doing clean up over the Damore mess and assessing potential risks.
     
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  9. So this particular lawsuit is deader than dead, right? But now we're tracking other lawsuits that kind of reference the Damore situation? Just trying to keep track, this one is very interesting to me.
     
  10. Unless some magic happens and the government decides to start going after these bullshit arbitration agreements that effectively shred all employee rights, yes.
     
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  11. A Damore plant would be dumb considering hes settled and he wont want to undo that and Damore has been pretty straight thus far. Also what would be the point? A shot in the dark that the government may unwedge itself out of bed and do something? He has more to lose than to gain.
     
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  12. He didn't settle. He was forced into arbitration against his will.
     
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  13. So if he was socking could that hurt him? What do you think the chances are its a sock?
     
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