Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

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How many people in your life have you seen troon out?(not including cows)


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兄貴 Forevermore

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I'm trying to picture what kind of subliminal messaging would be directed at a woman chatting on a server related to crochet or gardening that would get her to log on to the troon forum. "The way you talk about pruning your arbor vita is very masculine, have you ever experienced chest dysphoria?" :thinking:
I hope it wouldn't be that retarded (It probably is). But the initial push is subtle. Something innocuous along the lines of seeing the server go "We're happy to welcome the new LGBTQ member(s) who are the cornerstone of our server!".
But usually, I think deep down inside, anyone who takes this bait has some deep, deep dissatisfaction somewhere in life.

But if you are confident in who you are, and that your identity is entrenched so it may not be challenged by such elementary farce then you would likely just ignore it.
 

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I hope it wouldn't be that retarded (It probably is). But the initial push is subtle. Something innocuous along the lines of seeing the server go "We're happy to welcome the new LGBTQ member(s) who are the cornerstone of our server!".
But usually, I think deep down inside, anyone who takes this bait has some deep, deep dissatisfaction somewhere in life.

But if you are confident in who you are, and that your identity is entrenched so it may not be challenged by such elementary farce then you would likely just ignore it.
Yeah I can't imagine someone who is perfectly happy and normal really being taken in by this shit. But, if she's insecure and guilt- motivated like a lot of liberal women, the need to find some way to become lgbt could be enough.
 

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Troons are a workshy bunch; they have all day and all night to chat on Discord. If someone's looking for a fix of human interaction at off-peak hours, or just a reliable group of pals who are always already there when you log in, it's going to be heavily those troons who live online.

Same as the tranny janny phenomenon, except with providing the illusion of friendship instead of free labor.
 

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Troons are a workshy bunch; they have all day and all night to chat on Discord. If someone's looking for a fix of human interaction at off-peak hours, or just a reliable group of pals who are always already there when you log in, it's going to be heavily those troons who live online.

Same as the tranny janny phenomenon, except with providing the illusion of friendship instead of free labor.
The whole "tranny work from home coder" stereotype makes a lot more sense in this context
 

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Welp, time to strap in.

So around mid-May, my girlfriend of two years broke up with me out of the blue. I was "surprised" with this information coming home from work and finding half of her things gone. She only gave me a cryptic closure: "I've just run out of things to talk about". Which was odd, because every day we spent together was amazing. She was very much a girly girl and I loved being able to provide for her. Hell, I had bought a ring that matched her personality perfectly and was intending to pop the question a week or so after the breakup date before it happened. Over the next three weeks of her slowly moving shit out of the house, I tried to press her into telling me the real reason why she wanted to break up and never got far.

I learned later from a friend of hers (who was leaving her friend group I guess) that she was transitioning into a man. She used Discord for a lot of her cute hobbies like sewing, crocheting, gardening, etc., and had apparently gotten swept away into a tranny server. She never showed any signs throughout the relationship. But her friend showed me some chat logs of my girlfriend stating her plans...that she was going to leave me, that me being a bigoted Christian (my religion never played into our relationship ever) wouldn't be the "appropriate environment". She "wanted an environment of affirmation, not one that would spread negativity", which I assume meant that she didn't want her decision challenged by me. Couldn't try to talk her out of it because she blocked me on every possible platform.

So this whole thing kinda shattered my entire reality of her. But I'm doing about as good as I can be right now. I just wonder how long the troon cult had been silently indoctrinating her.
im starting to question how the fuck we can reliably avoid this shit at this point? only date people who are hardcore redpilled reactionaries?
 

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im starting to question how the fuck we can reliably avoid this shit at this point?
Nuke Discord and Tumblr.

Blow up the servers in a nuclear blast, round up the programmers and tell them to face the wall, and poison all the mods in their sleep. Any clever bugger who tries to come up with a replacement or something similar, dump them in the middle of the Pacific and tell them to swim for it.
 

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im starting to question how the fuck we can reliably avoid this shit at this point? only date people who are hardcore redpilled reactionaries?
We must confront the greatest demons within the hearts of man. Legal methods do not exist in the US right now because "muh discrimination title IX" and "muh hate crime" laws.
 

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Does losing authors to transgenderism count in this thread? Because every new book I've read in the past year HAS to have someone with they/them pronouns. In sci-fi and fantasy, like maybe I could squint and pretend it's justified. But I just read a goddamn KIDS book with a they/thembie in it. By a megapopular author too. Fuck's sake. All I can do is maybe write a letter to the author or publisher. But that feels as effective as farting in the wind.

This. Fucking. Bullshit.

I can't wait until we get to the point where we look back at this this way some people look back on dirty hippies. Like it's real cool until you can smell the mental illness, dependence on drugs, and lack of hygiene.

Stick to books written before 2006 or were independently/self published. Editors now focus on which races/gender/religion characters are and that everything "punches up." It's a cabal of wine moms who want to take away your hobby, and they brag about shredding submissions that come from or feature white men.
 

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So I have an inactive facebook account that I log into every couple of weeks just to check for messages, the usual. The other day I did this and the algorithm happened to have put a post at the top of my feed from a woman I'm facebook friends with but don't interact with that much. She was talking about her son in a way that set off an alarm.

I click on her profile. A lot of posts about the son, and how happy she is that he is "exploring his gender." The kid is like 5.

I guess what bothered me about it is that this isn't some zany, crazy-eyed, blue-haired witch. She's very liberal, but in the most boring, NPC way imaginable. I don't even say that to insult her, I'm pretty liberal myself and she's not a bad person, she's just very much a follower not a leader when it comes to politics.

I think a big chunk of parents that are trooning out their kids (or who are on that path) aren't active groomers or munchies looking for attention, they're just midwits who have swallowed the "innate gender identity" bullshit and are obliviously leading their kids into "gender dysphoria" and then troonery, Clever Hans style.

I feel very sad for her kid.
 

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Oof. These are grown women- what the actual fuck is going on over at Discord that's getting to them like this?
My running theory is creeping anomie - people fail to make connections with the real world, either in the literal sense of never going outside or in the more limited sense of "doing what you've been told to do, but it doesn't click."

Rather than asking yourself truly probing questions or putting yourself out there to find something that speaks to you as a person, people invent utopian ideals of "how the world should/could be" and then shop around for anywhere, in secret, that validates their christmasland. The gender-bender cult offers ready-made excuses for everything, and an answer for everything: they're carbon copies of one another because they're all pulling from the same moral matrices. It's like the IKEA of personalities.

And while we all acknowledge teenage angst for what it is, anomie hits adults just as often and just as hard - and it can be concealed for a long time. Many people do lose their disharmony and integrate, but many people as well simply learn to emulate integration, privately nursing and harboring their disconnects. In a healthy world, they undertake personal journeys to suss things out, which often lead to great personal revelations. But we're in a microwave world - I want my revelation ready to go in four minutes or less. People with this bottled-up alienation can be totally invisible to people who have never felt anomie, but those with experience can identify the signs.

This explains why groomers are so good at finding and making connections that people who have never felt truly maladjusted just can't comprehend. It's also why the proper diplomats to the out-of-place need to be people who themselves have never been particularly congruous with the phrase "normal," but those populations were among the first that the troon interest groups targeted. I like to point to Alice Dreger's Galileo's Middle Finger and the strange tale of Canada's Doctor Zucker as my own private canaries in the coalmine to this effect.

Every single emotional and logical appeal that people make to those indoctrinated fails, because the devotees aren't operating on the same moral, logical, or social compasses that we are. What we value has been informed by our ability to connect with the world, however difficult that was, and what they value has instead arisen from their inability (or perceived inability) to connect; thus this idea of "self-realism" springs forth, as an expression that their own moral/logical/social systems have been almost fully constructed by the imagined reality that they've conjured up in their heads, with an alleyoop assist from the internet.

I think the reason it's often so frustrating to see this happen, and to feel powerless, is that we know for many of these people - it isn't an innate inability to connect with the world. It's a perceived inability, fed and encouraged by too much time mistaking internet community as interchangeable with real community. I don't personally fall in well with the zeitgeist or dominant acceptable norms of behavior among just about any social group, which made being a teenager and young adult somewhat cumbersome. But I was convinced that there was "something more" out there, and searched around to find a niche for myself - a relationship between my own personal systems and the societal ones around me, which is obviously still evolving. It was a rewarding and often uphill struggle, but in a world of convenience - that's a tall order, particularly since it necessitates treading unsteady, unfamiliar ground. It ultimately explains why I feel sympathy for people who get suckered into this stuff, because they're outcasts and oddballs that refuse to accept that being atypical is fine, if prone to a little more soul-searching. This is obviously a different case from the trenders, who belong to the "in" group but are shopping for fashion.

I've been reading Jonathan Haidt's "The Righteous Mind," and he has a segment discussing the relation between systematizing and empathizing which happened to catch my eye. Great moral philosophers developed systems of morality which they themselves didn't necessarily click with, if only because their lacking empathetic qualities left them largely unable to form meaningful (or at least complete) connections with other people. We note that a lot of people who are drawn into the troon cult, regardless of age, exhibit signs of autism spectrum behavior or otherwise have difficulty forming steady emotional connections with others - if not ipso facto, then post hoc. I suspect that many of them are systemic thinkers who crave a cause for every effect on themselves. Feeling disharmony with the systems they feel they're "supposed" to belong to, they search endlessly for meanings and explanations that aren't there, in a vain and immature effort to codify all human behavior and impulses. You can see this in the fact that so many of them "rebel" against the prevailing social current... by just listlessly adopting some other social current: similar dress, style of speech, political beliefs, etc etc. Rather than take on the task of acknowledging dissonance between yourself and prevailing social currents, and forming connections and relationships and a distinct moral matrix through analyzing and experiencing these incongruencies, these people effectively try to plug in a thumb drive of moral systems and behavior to themselves to 'feel' connection, to install a new moral OS that will remove some of the performance issues of the old one.

This obviously fails to stymie increasing anomie, all while removing other bulwarks against it - family, friends, community, responsibility, etc. Eventually obvious dissonances between the individual and the moral matrices they've tried to foist on themselves emerge, which is why you see such rabid adherence to doctrine in a desperate attempt to cling on to those adopted systems -- sunken cost fallacy, because if you've thrown away so much time and money and relationships in a desperate attempt to 'create harmony' between yourself and the world, and in reality all you did was bring in further disharmony, it's an uncomfortable thing to accept that often prompts searching for yet-another system to try to graft onto yourself. In the end, the individual connects even less with the world around them, and is forced into even more disconnected communities in the desperate search for 'order,' which carries on until an eventual breaking point.

This spins right back around to why I find myself a "truscum" person -- for the "true" trans person, they have such a fried brain beset by mental illness that presenting as the opposite sex is their means of connecting to other social/moral/etc systems. The "true" trans person acknowledges that they are their birth gender, and will never flip sexes, but also acknowledges that the disharmony they feel between "expected" norms and their own personal ones has pathologized into a mental illness that requires such drastic behavioral changes to tether them to others in the world. By contrast, the modern day equivalent are simply cadres of people feeling anomie, who could explore and find their own unique, specific ways to interface with broader matrices -- but they don't wanna put in that effort. They graft the trans ideation onto themselves, undertake the ritual, and believe - because they've been told - that this will allow them to interface with the world better, and to not feel so disconnected.

Though it is also disingenuous of me to say they don't want to put in the effort per se - for many, I feel they don't even realize that they can put in effort to this sort of thing. Sure, there are some that are just lazy, but I would wager many of these individuals... have been so socialized by pop culture and the faux-"lives" that people present in media and social media alike, that it genuinely never crossed their mind that grappling with your own personal relationship to the world and society you exist in is both a mundane and a frequent thing, and that people do not in reality ever find a 'niche' in which they never buckle or grapple with prevailing currents or alternative systems of morality. It sounds autistic as fuck to think that anyone could really be this clueless, but that's because these people tend to be autistic as fuck
 

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Funny little update on my ex. He is a literal pedophile. He dumped me for a 15 year old. He's 19. 😂😂😂😂😂 I am going insane why are troons always fucking pedophiles?
Technically that might not be pedophilia depending on the state (I don't agree with the statue buuuut). I think Hawaii is 5 year difference and the age of consent is 16. Utah is 10 if you didn't know the age (eg; lied), Maine is 5 years and consent is 16.
He still probably belongs on the firing line.

We had another old age tranny visit our store today. I'm not sure what the fuck happened to them but something must have happened to them as a kid for them to troon out at age 70+....
Edit: This was a transgender black man who was more or less putting their hands on everyone's shoulder except for me. Guess he didn't like the gun openly holstered and a hand next to it, guess I gotta just start reaching for the gun now when I see these frisky trans types.
 

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Technically that might not be pedophilia depending on the state (I don't agree with the statue buuuut). I think Hawaii is 5 year difference and the age of consent is 16. Utah is 10 if you didn't know the age (eg; lied), Maine is 5 years and consent is 16.
He still probably belongs on the firing line.

We had another old age tranny visit our store today. I'm not sure what the fuck happened to them but something must have happened to them as a kid for them to troon out at age 70+....
Edit: This was a transgender black man who was more or less putting their hands on everyone's shoulder except for me. Guess he didn't like the gun openly holstered and a hand next to it, guess I gotta just start reaching for the gun now when I see these frisky trans types.
It is paedophilia, I'm in Australia. The age of consent in the state he lives in is 17, and this kid just turned 15. I think it's online so he's grooming yet another vulnerable person. Basically here the age gap is I think 4-5 years for someone who is at the age of consent but not yet an adult, but he is straight up with an actual child that legally can't consent. I don't know what to do, I cant prove anything, I don't want another person to go through what I did though. He still lives with his parent(s) who know about the situation, all of his friends have cut him off (apart from the 1 or 2 degenerates).
Edit: Actually I think the age gap is my state, IDK. Its confusing shit.
 
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It is paedophilia, I'm in Australia. The age of consent in the state he lives in is 17, and this kid just turned 15. I think it's online so he's grooming yet another vulnerable person. Basically here the age gap is I think 4-5 years for someone who is at the age of consent but not yet an adult, but he is straight up with an actual child that legally can't consent. I don't know what to do, I cant prove anything, I don't want another person to go through what I did though. He still lives with his parent(s) who know about the situation, all of his friends have cut him off (apart from the 1 or 2 degenerates).
Edit: Actually I think the age gap is my state, IDK. Its confusing shit.
The age of consent is 16 unless he lives in SA or Tas, where it is 17. This site can link you to the child protection department in your state. If you're worried about the kid please contact someone.

Troons are degenerates and pedos deserve to burn in hell.
 

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I don't know what to do, I cant prove anything, I don't want another person to go through what I did though.
stop paying attention to his existence, probably, with that thinly-veiled 'savior' justification

A 19 year old schtupping a 15 year old is known as statutory rape. However, particularly if the guy is only 19, police rarely go after it unless there's something else to bundle it with (buying a minor alcohol/tobacco, etc), largely because the instant the kid hits 18, a four-year age difference is both mundane and acceptable. It's still doubtless weird and creepy as it is, but it's not really going to be anyone's prerogative to do anything about it at-face. Otherwise, cops would routinely prosecute outgoing high school seniors that date incoming freshmen.
 

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I'm getting very tired of troons. There's this one in my meatspace life that started out as an autistic man that would often make sex jokes and spout spongebob references. Now he says he's trans, named himself after a kid show character, doesn't do anything to pass, and now all he makes are trans jokes, sex jokes, and period jokes. Funny thing is that he still knows nothing about the female anatomy. He thought that tampons breaks the hymen. He's hoping to get bottom surgery done and that's not gonna happen soon because he doesn't have a job. To be quite honest, I never liked him to begin with. He's getting new trans friends so hopefully he'll latch onto them and leave us alone.

It's funny because he does all the stuff that typical TiMs do. He talks about wanting to be an anime girl (he's a nerdy fat man), he has now started to wear a mask in pictures to hide his chin (it doesn't help at all), and he has to wear trans pride colors all the time because HE NEEDS PEOPLE TO KNOW HE'S TRANS. He NEEDS to acknowledge his transness all the time. I'm not sure if it's due to his autistic nature but this definitely reminds me of when autists bring up a certain thing impulsively. For example, this one autistic coworker would always mention the fact that carbonation makes her sick when anything involving a carbonated drink comes into the conversation. It's like they can't help it.
Another update on this fucker because I'm becoming increasingly tired of this creature. We were all going to go to a movie. In a group chat, he asks if it's possible if one of us could come with him to the bathroom. Again, this man has done nothing to pass. He still has a beard and just covers it with a mask. His voice is still manly and doesn't even do a shitty falsetto. A handmaiden friend bent over backwards and agreed to everything.

When he gets to the movie theatre, he's wearing the most hideous grandma dress
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He sticks out like a sore thumb because no one wears such a thing in the modern era. I can't remember who he lives with but I believe it's his grandparents and it truly shows because only an autist that lives with grandma would think this is okay.

And then today, Roe vs Wade got overturned and he starts getting upset. He says he's going to throw up. He's getting upset when this doesn't impact him at all and the people who actually are impacted are handling it better than him.

I don't even know how to describe my anger when it comes to this man. It's like seeing someone trying to be something that you are but they don't understand your life at all. All they have are myths and stereotypes and they try to use those things to parrot and mimic.

He will never understand what it's like to be a woman. He will never understand having your voice be dismissed. He will never have the voice in the back of your head trying to figure out if someone is dangerous to you. He will never undergo the cruel methods that still exist in modern gynecology. He will never understand that the ability to be independent is actually quite recent and can be easily taken away. He will never undergo the process of being pregnant and giving birth. He will never have to deal with the trauma that is a miscarriage or still birth. He will never understand the many hats a modern mother has to wear. He will never understand the idea of doctors disregarding your complaints. He will never understand that a man could quickly overpower you and in many scenarios you are vulnerable.

All this bitch spouts is "lol i'm trans", "lol period", "lol I'm a girl" as if that's enough. As if that's all women are. It makes me want to scream at him.
 

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When he gets to the movie theatre, he's wearing the most hideous grandma dress
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He sticks out like a sore thumb because no one wears such a thing in the modern era. I can't remember who he lives with but I believe it's his grandparents and it truly shows because only an autist that lives with grandma would think this is okay.
Wow. Usually, trans-age goes the other direction.