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AltisticRight

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Runs like shit.

PPP has done two streams on Odysee so far. It doesn't save the stream when you do it so the stream either has to be recorded locally or it's gone forever. When the stream is recorded locally and uploaded it exists in the same URL as the initial stream did. I think it ends up using bitwave to play it back somehow because it will randomly stop a new video on that persons Odysee channel will autoplay. This happened 4 times trying to watch an episode of This Week in Cuckada.
So worse than Tencent's shitty Chomo with fake manaberry tokens? What a shocker...!
 

Fslur

kiwifarms.net
So worse than Tencent's shitty Chomo with fake manaberry tokens? What a shocker...!
Odysee’s streaming is brand new and no where close to being finished. They just announced yesterday that streams now save automatically.

However you’ll need to back it up since they will only be available for 30 days after the stream.

You can now watch streams on the Odysee IOS app. & Anyone can unlock streaming now as long as you have 50 lbc staked.

OdyseeTeam Tweet Archive

Chomo on the other hand is just like Dlive and not just because they are Chinese owned. They are using people like the Gunt and the other Dlive refugees until they no longer need them.

Odysee is making changes daily to improve user’s experience.

*edit typo
 

Noproblemo

kiwifarms.net
Odysee’s streaming is brand new and no where close to being finished. They just announced yesterday that streams now save automatically.

However you’ll need to back it up since they will only be available for 30 days after the stream.

You can now watch streams on the Odysee IOS app. & Anyone can unlock streaming now as long as you have 50 lbc staked.

OdyseeTeam Tweet Archive

Chomo on the other hand is just like Dlive and not just because they are Chinese owned. They are using people like the Gunt and the other Dlive refugees until they no longer need them.

Odysee is making changes daily to improve user’s experience.

*edit typo
0.1 LBC has been deposited to your account.

Odysee buffers every 5 second, you can see all the comments complaining. How do you fuck up this bad, just route all the traffic to bitwave, Xander.
 

Fslur

kiwifarms.net
0.1 LBC has been deposited to your account.

Odysee buffers every 5 second, you can see all the comments complaining. How do you fuck up this bad, just route all the traffic to bitwave, Xander.
Weird I don’t have that issue with buffering ect..

Did see an issue after a certain number of viewers would join a stream. The Mati streams were the largest streams I have seen on Odysee. Smaller streams do fine. However it doesn’t seem to be ready for 500+ viewers yet. They are constantly updating and are just about ready to add their version of supechats.

Seems like some just want to trash Xander. K.. To those actually curious, it’s a work in progress and I have seen a lot of positive changes already. For example today the very second I had 50lbc staked to my account it unlocked live streaming.

Also, I am not being paid at all to say any of this. There’s a lot of people crying for alternatives. Yet very few actually doing something about it. Yt is a trash propaganda prop that doesn’t want anyone who disagrees with their narratives on it’s platform.
 

Sam Losco

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Since Ralph is shilling Odysee right now...
From @PhoBingas Odysee stream:
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Still 17 references to bitwave in the code!
 

JDANKS420

kiwifarms.net
Weird I don’t have that issue with buffering ect..

Did see an issue after a certain number of viewers would join a stream. The Mati streams were the largest streams I have seen on Odysee. Smaller streams do fine. However it doesn’t seem to be ready for 500+ viewers yet. They are constantly updating and are just about ready to add their version of supechats.

Seems like some just want to trash Xander. K.. To those actually curious, it’s a work in progress and I have seen a lot of positive changes already. For example today the very second I had 50lbc staked to my account it unlocked live streaming.

Also, I am not being paid at all to say any of this. There’s a lot of people crying for alternatives. Yet very few actually doing something about it. Yt is a trash propaganda prop that doesn’t want anyone who disagrees with their narratives on it’s platform.
ok and youre NOT getting paid to say this? LOL bitwave runs like shit, odysee runs like shit. id much rather use youtube, even more so now seeing youre the type of person to endorse odysee. seems like some just want to kiss xanders ass.
 

MeltyTW

kiwifarms.net
why would any Alt-Tech site sell themselves out to a single creator that won't do anything meaningful for them?
It baffles my mind.
it really seems like fucking tom is simping for ralph so hard hes bleeding his company dry and saying theyre "sponsoring" him while the main account says they dont sponsor people. idk why gunt insists on killing every site he tries to take shelter in just so people cant call him a nigger, its not to protect his prospects either since his brain dead fans who would want to for some reason re watch an old kill report will be brain dead enough to think ralph deserves money for sleeping on stream while jim talks.
 

Haru Okumura

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kiwifarms.net
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Tweet (archive)

And here I was taking LBRY's documentation at face value and thinking that channel names were determined solely by the community, not by any top-down arbitration...

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Site (archive)

I guess that doesn't work out so well when one of the administrators is the bad actor, though, does it?

And before these idiots resort back to their embarrassing motte-and-bailey of claiming that the Odysee frontend and the LBRY protocol are distinct entities, I'll preemptively remind everyone that Odysee uses the LBRY documentation on lbry.com as its support page so we can save everybody a lot of time and annoyance and just skip that braindead misdirection.
 

Sam Losco

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Tweet (archive)

And here I was taking LBRY's documentation at face value and thinking that channel names were determined solely by the community, not by any top-down arbitration...

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Site (archive)

I guess that doesn't work out so well when one of the administrators is the bad actor, though, does it?

And before these idiots resort back to their embarrassing motte-and-bailey of claiming that the Odysee frontend and the LBRY protocol are distinct entities, I'll preemptively remind everyone that Odysee uses the LBRY documentation on lbry.com as its support page so we can save everybody a lot of time and annoyance and just skip that braindead misdirection.
That's talking about Pho's too which most certainly is not using Ralph's channel name. Fucking morons can't even get their bullshit straight.
 

High Tea

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Tweet (archive)

And here I was taking LBRY's documentation at face value and thinking that channel names were determined solely by the community, not by any top-down arbitration...

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Site (archive)

I guess that doesn't work out so well when one of the administrators is the bad actor, though, does it?

And before these idiots resort back to their embarrassing motte-and-bailey of claiming that the Odysee frontend and the LBRY protocol are distinct entities, I'll preemptively remind everyone that Odysee uses the LBRY documentation on lbry.com as its support page so we can save everybody a lot of time and annoyance and just skip that braindead misdirection.
No clips can be analyzed then. Is the Fox News content and logo not visible when a Tucker clip is played? Or is it in regards to people who have Odysse channels? If that's the case Killstream can't have clips from - Dick Show, Red Ice, Red Elephants, Subcultured, Black Pigeon Speaks, etc.
 

MeltyTW

kiwifarms.net
No clips can be analyzed then. Is the Fox News content and logo not visible when a Tucker clip is played? Or is it in regards to people who have Odysse channels? If that's the case Killstream can't have clips from - Dick Show, Red Ice, Red Elephants, Subcultured, Black Pigeon Speaks, etc.
even without the hypocrisy from allowing ethan to steal copyrighted material outright how is this site at all better than youtube if you can be flagged by far easier than on yt?
 

Sam Losco

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For those not paying attention:
LBRY is being sued by the SEC for failing to register an offering of securities in the form of LBC.

Attached is a zip containing every filing in the SEC vs LBRY case, as of yesterday.
I'll leave analysis to those better suited to the task such as @AnOminous and @Useful_Mistake.
Jpgs of the main docs:
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And weirdly (probably normal in the world of legal games), a motion for LBRY Foundation Inc to intervene, which is granted.
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And then here is their answer to the case:
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Useful_Mistake

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I'll admit to not being up to date with whatever the hell is going on, but in its response LBRY did admit they violated the act.
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Which would be in violation of act 5(a) and (c)
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First defense is just plain wrong. They are selling crypto, as far as I understand, but claim it's actually not crypto but something like a trading card. But it's not. It's crypto. They are using that crypto as crypto. It's clearly a "security" under section 2.
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LBRY's second defense is pretty poor, imo. Taking it as fact and pretending that it somehow validates their actions pre-2017 (I don't believe it does), they still committed crimes for 3 years after the law was allegedly changed. I'm also not sure how there was a violation of Administrative procedure act, because they never bothered to explain.
It's third defense relies on success of both its first and second defense, or at least first.

Sorry for such a short analysis, but from what I've seen LBRY did not respond well. They basically admitted to the most important claims, and then went on to try to pretend they were not selling crypto.
 

Haru Okumura

The Empress
kiwifarms.net
I'll admit to not being up to date with whatever the hell is going on, but in its response LBRY did admit they violated the act.
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Which would be in violation of act 5(a) and (c)
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First defense is just plain wrong. They are selling crypto, as far as I understand, but claim it's actually not crypto but something like a trading card. But it's not. It's crypto. They are using that crypto as crypto. It's clearly a "security" under section 2.
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LBRY's second defense is pretty poor, imo. Taking it as fact and pretending that it somehow validates their actions pre-2017 (I don't believe it does), they still committed crimes for 3 years after the law was allegedly changed. I'm also not sure how there was a violation of Administrative procedure act, because they never bothered to explain.
It's third defense relies on success of both its first and second defense, or at least first.

Sorry for such a short analysis, but from what I've seen LBRY did not respond well. They basically admitted to the most important claims, and then went on to try to pretend they were not selling crypto.
It's actually a lot weirder than it seems.

LBRY is responding to this suit by saying, essentially, that there are two entirely separate entities, LBRY Inc and the LBRY Foundation. They claim that these two parties have competing interests because LBRY Inc primarily cares about its own survival as a company whereas the LBRY Foundation cares primarily about the value of LBC staying high so it can remain solvent (since its funding was apportioned almost entirely in LBC). Thus, there are two responses, document 13 from LBRY Inc and document 18 from the LBRY Foundation. What you're quoting is the LBRY Foundation's response; unlike the Foundation, LBRY Inc denies almost every allegation in its response.

Of course, the LBRY Foundation has directors that are LBRY Inc employees, including the CEO, so they're not entirely separate entities in practice, even if the CEO has abstained from voting as a Foundation director in this specific matter as the response states.

Notably, the Foundation also claims that:

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In other words, LBRY is looking for a way forward that does not rely on LBC, and indeed might be willing to scuttle LBC entirely to continue onward. They've been talking a lot about integrating fiat payments into their platform and that may be a result of preparing to implement this strategy.

I hope somebody more familiar with this type of enforcement action read the documents and offer their opinion on what's going on.
 

Useful_Mistake

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LBRY is responding to this suit by saying, essentially, that there are two entirely separate entities, LBRY Inc and the LBRY Foundation.
LBRY Foundation's answer is more of the same. They allege that it's not a security and they never thought that it was while acquiring it. I feel my analysis (for now) still fits them until they produce something more substantial.

LBRY Foundation's response; unlike the Foundation, LBRY Inc denies almost every allegation in its response.

Unless I am missing something, the foundation seems to be admitting to much of the same things inc is.
 

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