Regarding OnlyFans and the Forum -

Pizza Gender

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Taking the devil's advocate role and ignoring the coomer issue:

Slippery slope issues meets perfect storm of things that represent the failures of modern internet culture

In the past, there were boundaries and unofficial rules in place if you wanted to make money off of sex online. You NEVER used your real name for protective reasons and had to go through the Mindgeek machine or webcam sites, often making free videos/streams to build up a fanbase so that you could then force people to pay cash for the videos behind the paywalls Mindgeek allows or via personal website content that require subscriptions, etc. It was also a side hustle generally, and most people involved kept it on the downlow and you always look at it as a lark of sorts; something you did when you were young before you got married and then shove it into the closet of things you never talk about when you get older.

Onlyfans basically made it so that not only was it a "proper" career, but actively encourages people to use their real name; meaning that it's much harder to pull an erase everything deal once the novelty wears off and you realize you won't get rich and want to walk away and go back to your normal life like it never happened. Worse, Onlyfans has fed a notion that you can get rich off of the site in the wake of the pandemic, which isn't realistic all things considered given the glut of vanilla content on the website from amateurs and the fact that they are competing against people in the sex work industry with established fanbases also on the website.

Tossed into the equation is that Onlyfans represents a sort of gamechanger moment towards the issue of feminism and sex work, as far as the feminist idea that "my body=my choice" finally being put into practice relating to sex work. The feminist notion that women should be able to be sex workers since it's their body and they have every right to profit off of it, has never been put into practice to the degree that it has with Onlyfans. The ease to create Onlyfans pages, combined with a generation that grew up not knowing/caring about Rule One of the internet (NEVER USE YOUR REAL NAME), is resulting in a perfect storm of sorts where pro-sex work feminism is facing down the consequences of actually living in a society where anyone can be an online sex worker, without thinking about the consequences that would come about as a result of becoming an online sex worker in terms of the issues related to privacy and what happens when people find out about your side hustle.

In the past, you had to be tech savy to make money online as a sex worker. You also went into it covering your ass five ways to Sunday and there was an intentional level of disconnect between your fan/customer base and the person and the big money required networking. Onlyfans got rid of those safety rails and now you have to deal with the fact that a lot of people who didn't think about these things, dealing with the consequences of said safety rails not being in place.

TL;DR Onlyfans opens up a pandora's box of things that have consequences that no one gave a crap about until it was too late, combined with it being the culmination of a generation who grew up never knowing the rules of the internet to protect your privacy realizing why you never post anything online that can be linked to you.
Okay, but what is achieved by ranting about it on the internet? Especially on a site like this. Heck, even shouting on the streets like a crazy person has more chance to change society than posting on Kiwi Farms.
 

Frencel

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Ok, I think I can ask my question here.

What's the big fucking deal with people doing OnlyFans? Why does it get people's panties all twisted whenever someone does OnlyFans?

I'm being genuine here. I seriously do not understand why people here or anywhere get so fucking vitriolic about OnlyFans and the people who do it.
1. If I were a moid, I would hate it for the fact that it preys on human loneliness. Part of OF's gimmick is that it offers interaction and a "relationship" between the prostitute and the audience.

2. There is a lot of grooming. Tons of accounts created at the ripe age of 18 due to "popular demand". This is a concern paired with the overwhelming wave of lefties claiming that spreading your puckering asshole for the public to see is "empowerment/liberation". Young girls are being taught harmful messages about their bodies and value.

3. It's a pyramid scheme. Mainly celebrities pocket the top percent of income, meanwhile the bottom tiers "hustle" with referrals and luring other girls into the platform in order to earn royalties. Should also mention that it's an incredibly unstable, and unrewarding "career" choice that expires with age leaving people skilless in the real world.
 
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Law

hates dogs, loves vicodin
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I guess I'll just toss in that the feminists chirping about how awesome pimping and prostitution are and calling it "sex work" are liberal feminists. Radical feminists are against prostitution and OnlyFans. There's tons of anti-OnlyFans and anti-prostitution content and discussion on radical feminist sites like Ovarit.
Saying that feminists support prostitution is like saying vegans support eating cheeseburgers - the one who do are tragically bad at their jobs, and are fun to laugh at.
 

My Knee is Growing

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Because they're seething, coping, and hate whores, and despite the fact they would only ever get laid by whores, they mindlessly hate them for some reason. Basically, because they're angry incels. This is why nool does not want an influx of fucking retards posting OF porn threads because they're angry incels who will get the site sued out the ass for IP infringement.

Misogynistic incels get mad at anything that's liberating for women.
Am I on r*ddit or kiwi farms right now?
 

Nykysnottrans

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Doesn't Patreon routinely ban/purge sex workers? To the point that Only Fans exists BECAUSE Patreon told the sex worker types to fuck off?
Patreon told sex workers to fuck off indeed because they were posting porn to Patreon, but Patreon is OK with people that have an OF account next to a Patreon account, as long as the two don't mix, but the fact is that cross-pollination happens constantly. To use Youtuber Brittany Simon as an example, she has an OnlyFans and a Patreon account, but she uses her Youtube channel to promote both her Patreon account and her OnlyFans account as seemingly separate entities. Another Youtuber that has OnlyFans as well as Patreon is Repzion:


If you look in the description of his video you will see that he has a Patreon account as well as an OnlyFans account listed. So Youtube is where Patreon and OnlyFans cross-pollinate, but Patreon is seemingly OK with that as long as nothing adult gets posted directly on their platform.
 

off meds / online

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Patreon told sex workers to fuck off indeed because they were posting porn to Patreon, but Patreon is OK with people that have an OF account next to a Patreon account, as long as the two don't mix, but the fact is that cross-pollination happens constantly. To use Youtuber Brittany Simon as an example, she has an OnlyFans and a Patreon account, but she uses her Youtube channel to promote both her Patreon account and her OnlyFans account as seemingly separate entities. Another Youtuber that has OnlyFans as well as Patreon is Repzion:


If you look in the description of his video you will see that he has a Patreon account as well as an OnlyFans account listed. So Youtube is where Patreon and OnlyFans cross-pollinate, but Patreon is seemingly OK with that as long as nothing adult gets posted directly on their platform.
who the fuck is paying to see repzion naked
 

cockle

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Alright, That's fairly reasonable. I have seen the past generation grow up without the same internet rules as me, which is a little scary.
Because they're seething, coping, and hate whores, and despite the fact they would only ever get laid by whores, they mindlessly hate them for some reason. Basically, because they're angry incels. This is why nool does not want an influx of fucking retards posting OF porn threads because they're angry incels who will get the site sued out the ass for IP infringement.
Makes sense.
Misogynistic incels get mad at anything that's liberating for women.
Also makes sense. I've only ever seen incels and conservative women/terfs/swerfs be this vitriolic about onlyfans.
1. If I were a moid, I would hate it for the fact that it preys on human loneliness. Part of OF's gimmick is that it offers interaction and a "relationship" between the prostitute and the audience.

2. There is a lot of grooming. Tons of accounts created at the ripe age of 18 due to "popular demand". This is a concern paired with the overwhelming wave of lefties claiming that spreading your puckering asshole for the public to see is "empowerment/liberation". Young girls are being taught harmful messages about their bodies and value.

3. It's a pyramid scheme. Mainly celebrities pocket the top percent of income, meanwhile the bottom tiers "hustle" with referrals and luring other girls into the platform in order to earn royalties. Should also mention that it's an incredibly unstable, and unrewarding "career" choice that expires with age leaving people skilless in the real world.
Truth be told, I have no idea how the site is run, so I can't agree or disagree about the oyramid scheme bit. But I've seen on twitter 17 year old girls announcing how many days until they can start an onlyfans, which is... hm.
 

Dyn

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But I thought dear leader said the whores using OnlyFans to make money are the problem? Or is it only the men?
I'm not obligated to hold the same opinions as Dear Leader, and the question I answered was 'why are so many people seething so hard about a porn platform they can just avoid looking at'.

If you want me to answer your question instead, I don't blame the whores or the coomers, I blame the media narrative that reframes every argument in the sexwork debate so that it hyperfocuses on spoiled trust fund girls on the internet who are basically showing their tits for fun and getting paid for it, and then uses that to try to sell us the idea that whoring yourself out is glamorous and cooming alone every night in a simp basement is perfectly okay.
 

JimmyNugget

Go to the Stars, Get Candy Bars
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I'm not obligated to hold the same opinions as Dear Leader, and the question I answered was 'why are so many people seething so hard about a porn platform they can just avoid looking at'.

If you want me to answer your question instead, I don't blame the whores or the coomers, I blame the media narrative that reframes every argument in the sexwork debate so that it hyperfocuses on spoiled trust fund girls on the internet who are basically showing their tits for fun and getting paid for it, and then uses that to try to sell us the idea that whoring yourself out is glamorous and cooming alone every night in a simp basement is perfectly okay.
What if you coom every night in a normal basement?
 

AnOminous

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The OF whores threatening the Wikihow dog haven't exactly come across as site menacing legal geniuses, or at least people who get get a correct DMCA notice complete.
That's because they hire these idiot DMCA mills that don't even have any actual lawyers and don't follow up if you just say "lmao no." If you have one of these thots who makes six figures and hires a real lawyer, that's something to worry about, and if nool allows an endless flood of shitty, repetitive threads about nearly identical OF thots just because incels are seething about them, one will eventually stick.
 

HunterHearstHelmsley

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Ok, I think I can ask my question here.
What's the big fucking deal with people doing OnlyFans? Why does it get people's panties all twisted whenever someone does OnlyFans?

I'm being genuine here. I seriously do not understand why people here or anywhere get so fucking vitriolic about OnlyFans and the people who do it.
People don’t get vitriolic about women who post on OnlyFans. People just recognise them for what they are: whores. Nobody wants to marry/date/care about a whore. It’s sad that so many women are taking the easy way out and becoming whores.

Some do get vitriolic towards e-whores who are obviously exploiting lonely men. That is not all e-whores and not all people care. Many are happy for fools to suffer the consequences of their actions.

I do get vitriolic about people who normalise becoming a whore. You’re encouraging women to ruin their lives.
 

AnOminous

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If you want me to answer your question instead, I don't blame the whores or the coomers, I blame the media narrative that reframes every argument in the sexwork debate so that it hyperfocuses on spoiled trust fund girls on the internet who are basically showing their tits for fun and getting paid for it, and then uses that to try to sell us the idea that whoring yourself out is glamorous and cooming alone every night in a simp basement is perfectly okay.
I blame both of them, as well as the fact that we live in a society.
Some do get vitriolic towards e-whores who are obviously exploiting lonely men. That is not all e-whores and not all people care. Many are happy for fools to suffer the consequences of their actions.
Simps are as bad as incels and if they give all their money to ethots they don't deserve to have it.
 
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