Sam Vogel "Antonovich" / Kaara / allthefoxes / theotherredfox / vincelocktip / samman412 / vlt412 / atf412 - Powertripping Discord staff member with a dash of cub-defending and furfaggotry, AKA the "cub porn Discord mod"

Quetzalcoatl

constant state of weariness
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Forgot to list his avian sona, Kaara (archive), OP.
Thanks for the heads up, I'll update it.

Really hope with this thread out people will share their own experiences of Discord staff actively ignoring or excusing pedos. Shit is wack.
You'll see that a lot with the hashtag or Quackity's youtube video in the comments section. Just a matter of time to grab most of them.
 

Marco Fucko

I fantasized about this back in Chicago
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Good job capturing events that are still unfolding, looks like this thread will have good meat for discussion in the future. Especially if he chimps and either deletes the KF discords or somebody else's.

EDIT: Just looked at the guy who got banned. Sammy fucked up hitting a guy with 1.2 million subscribers.
 

CIA Nigger

Not a fed, just a random object on the street.
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Why is it that no matter what the platform is, no matter whether they’re right or left or whatever labels you want to put on them, they always end up devolving into an extremely biased shitshow where logic is thrown out to bend rules and essentially throw their power around? Every fucking time. They always use it to let people they arbitrarily deem okay to slip through or get fair or even unfairly good treatment while anyone else gets shit on and banned if they don’t like how things are run. You see this on almost every platform or community unless it’s run like Gab where there are practically no rules or regulations, and we all know how that turned out.

Why is it always these irresponsible fucksticks that get somewhere that allows them to do this?
It's like what one of my friends said about internet companies, there's some sort of cycle. They advertise "we're not like these guys", they become like "these guys", then next thing you know they start losing money/users and go out of business or become irrelevant and they wonder why. Then the cycle repeats itself all over again. Skype's a good example, it used to be a pretty good p2p chat app, now the only people who still use it are either stubborn or they're using the cheap international call feature. Then Discord comes along as a Slack clone and advertises themselves as "we're not Skype" while making server creation easy and it becomes big before issues start to show up.

There are a lot of factors for this such as staff turnover/leaders leaving, corporate buyouts, financial censorship or funding issues (in the case of startups), and just plain poor management. As for banning and rule enforcement, it comes down to good old nepotism or "I have friends at Discord I'll ban you". Hell, Quackity's only video made on Discord was a video taking the piss out of furry discord servers and chances are Sam was screeching at the fact someone dared to make fun of the furry fandom which is far from the worst or most shocking video in the "laughing at bad discord servers" genre on YouTube when you consider there are servers like clones of Reiko's Trap Harem or the underage dating servers.

Is ripcord out of alpha yet? It'll be nice to jump ship, discord is too pozzed because of people like sam.
The problem with Ripcord is it's just like those third party AIM/MSN clients from back in the day like Pidgin or Trillian. It manages to fix the user side of Discord with a client replacement, but it doesn't fix issues on the service side like outages or badmins like Sam. I've heard many good things about Riot.im and it's "host your own server" model that's made it a replacement for Discord and Slack among more privacy minded or paranoid types online.
 

Bunny Tracks

Nothing equals the splendor
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The one thing that's so telling to me is the reason he just went after Quackity. Quackity isn't the only one who made videos making fun of furry shit. WildSpartanz, and BluesDank, two other Youtubers who Quackity frequently hangs out with, have also repeatedly made videos doing the same thing. The only difference is that none of them focused on furry discords specifically. I guarantee you if he hadn't made a video on a furry servers and just did one another random furry cringe piece, he wouldn't have gotten banned.
 

Burning Fanatic

Lvl. 12 Necroposter
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The one thing that's so telling to me is the reason he just went after Quackity. Quackity isn't the only one who made videos making fun of furry shit. WildSpartanz, and BluesDank, two other Youtubers who Quackity frequently hangs out with, have also repeatedly made videos doing the same thing. The only difference is that none of them focused on furry discords specifically. I guarantee you if he hadn't made a video on a furry servers and just did one another random furry cringe piece, he wouldn't have gotten banned.

Better example would have been other fetish servers on Discord.

I'm under the impression that for Sam, furries are like minorities that need to be treated as a protected class. Never mind the fact that these servers are mostly public, yet users on them act like it's all private.
 

Dante Alighieri

"Nature is the art of God."
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Why is it that no matter what the platform is, no matter whether they’re right or left or whatever labels you want to put on them, they always end up devolving into an extremely biased shitshow where logic is thrown out to bend rules and essentially throw their power around? Every fucking time. They always use it to let people they arbitrarily deem okay to slip through or get fair or even unfairly good treatment while anyone else gets shit on and banned if they don’t like how things are run. You see this on almost every platform or community unless it’s run like Gab where there are practically no rules or regulations, and we all know how that turned out.

Why is it always these irresponsible fucksticks that get somewhere that allows them to do this?

Because libertarians and conservatives believe in living and let live, while leftists, socialists, commies, social democrats, etc. believe in controlling people.
 

omori

go the fuck to sleep
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“Telling me I’m an terrible mod is literally terrorism guise!”
 

Zebedee

Lives under beds, feeding on fanta stains.
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It's always nice to be reminded that we can find laughable idiots in every aspect of the internet, discord being no exception.

Also, that F-List is fucking long, even for a furry. Our dear Sammy must have put quite a bit of thought into how roughly he wants his Bad Dragon delivered.
 

MasterDisaster

Probably wearing pants.
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do furries get annoyed when you fuck up their fursonas?

If you’re thinking of a-logging some sort of attention-whoring “epic troll” art, don’t. You’re likely to be mocked.


Then why ask what they do when you fuck up their fursona? Just draw them really deprogrammed saying they’re a pedo. It’s not hard.
I think the point that @aleksandrov was trying to make is furries can lose their shit when you make a mistake involving their fursona, or in this case, one of them.
'REEEE you forgot about my avian fursona! He's got devil and angel wings, horns and glows in the fucking dark! Get it right you fucking terrorists!'
 

Zebedee

Lives under beds, feeding on fanta stains.
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I think the point that @aleksandrov was trying to make is furries can lose their shit when you make a mistake involving their fursona, or in this case, one of them.
'REEEE you forgot about my avian fursona! He's got devil and angel wings, horns and glows in the fucking dark! Get it right you fucking terrorists!'

You forgot the ability to inflate and swallow other furries on command.

(I still don't get that one, its not even disturbing to me, just confusing as to why it's arousing. Like how did it even come about in the first place?)
 

Jeanne d'Arc

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Discord won't back this guy if this shit keeps happening.

Discord is getting plenty of new investors (see the expanded Nitro) and is filling a niche that is hugely profitable (communication between like-minded people i.e. Skype, Teamspeak). They will not like their name next to this furry's, no shot. That F-List, specifically, is damning. "Discord" and "non-consensual nipple piercings" are not two things, I assume, Discord HQ wants said in the same sentence, much less have a staff member publicly support them.

You have to be less exceptional than this to have a large company back your shit up. Google will allow SJWs to run rampant, but at least those people are somewhat tech savvy and most of them can conceal online footprint (not to mention use the company's tools to conceal online footprint). This dude is not worth any controversy, no way. He linked his Discord Staff/internal name to something that could be linked to an extreme fetish site. That's a huge red flag for anyone with two eyes.
 

Reynard

I regret nothing.
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I think the point that @aleksandrov was trying to make is furries can lose their shit when you make a mistake involving their fursona, or in this case, one of them.
'REEEE you forgot about my avian fursona! He's got devil and angel wings, horns and glows in the fucking dark! Get it right you fucking terrorists!'
In that case I’ll apologize, @aleksandrov. The combination of new member and asking something that could lead to shit like that set off some warning signs to me.
 

Pepito The Cat

Gotta go Rapido!
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Discord won't back this guy if this shit keeps happening.

But it still needs to be public and severe enough for the higher ups to notice, especially when it involves one of the most vocally retarded communities on the internet. A company doesn't just fire someone form a (((minority))) because of a couple of hard to prove incidents, that's calling for a PR storm.

With any luck, whomever is in charge of watching the Watchmen knows better and starts a purge before backing up the Internet's most retarded group (furries) from clawing their business apart.
 

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