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CNN recently posted an article on the "controversy" quoting Angela Hui heavily as their main source.

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/gordon-ramsey-asian-restaurant-cultural-appropriation-intl-scli/index.html

(CNN) — Gordon Ramsay's newest London restaurant has become embroiled in a row over alleged cultural appropriation after an Asian food critic accused the celebrity chef of tokenism.
Ramsey's restaurant group is preparing to launch Lucky Cat, which promotional material describes as "an authentic Asian Eating House and vibrant late-night lounge, inspired by the drinking dens of 1930s Tokyo and the Far East."
But at a preview night last week, food writer Angela Hui claimed "it was nothing if not a real life Ramsay kitchen nightmare."
Writing on Eater website, Hui said said she was "the only east Asian person in a room full of 30-40 journalists and chefs" and that the setting was "more seedy nightclub than Asian eating house."
In a series of scathing accompanying posts made to Instagram, the screengrabs of which were embedded in the review, Hui she could only "drink thru the pain that is this an "Asian' event."
In another she added, "Japanese? Chinese? It's all Asian who cares."

At the event, according to Hui, Ramsay remarked that the restaurant's head chef, Ben Orpwood was "more qualified and experienced than me in this field," and that "he's done the research, having traveled back and forth to south Asia for many months."
Critics have pointed out that the restaurant, which will replace Ramsey's Maze in the city's Mayfair area, does not appear to have any Asian chefs.
Ramsay hit back at the review in an Instagram post, saying that "despite the very positive feedback from guests" he had to call out "one offensive response from the night."
He went on to accuse Hui of being unprofessional for publishing a "slew of derogatory and offensive social media posts" in her social channels.
"It is fine to not like my food, but prejudice and insults are not welcome," said Ramsey.
He went on to accuse Hui of making offensive and disrespectful personal comments, alleging that one comment on Hui's Instagram called Orpwood's wife a "token Asian."
"Gordon Ramsay Restaurants do not discriminate based on gender, race or beliefs and we don't expect anyone else to. I may not agree with all reviews, but if someone is going to be critical, then I expect them to be professional and have some integrity."
CNN has reached out to Gordon Ramsay's restaurant group for comment.

According to Hui, dishes at the preview included a mini wagyu pastrami burger with "Asian" chilli jam and otoro fatty tuna, English asparagus and smoked ponzu emulsion and smoked duck breast with plum.
Other chefs have since weighed in on the controversy.
Entrepreneur and restaurateur George Chen tweeted: "Is the famous Chef going to curse at his white cooks in Asian or what? Every chef has a right to interpret another cuisine but the integrity and culture (read authenticity-albeit I hate that term) needs to be studied in depth and not WHITEwashed for marketing purposes!"
Chen went on to clarify that he was not saying "white chefs shouldn't cook Chinese/Asian," but "to say Authentic Asian, etc, like he knows better when he should've just stated these are his interpretations of a cuisine...which is wonderful because he certainly can cook."
 

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Why are 99% of Asians who complain about cultural appropriation always born (or at least raised) in the west?
It's almost entirely 2nd-gens that do this, from any culture. It's to do with being raised in one culture by parents from another culture, meaning they feel like they have one foot in each. Some people take that as an opportunity to benefit from the mix; others use it as a chance to bitch about how much whitey is keeping them down because they don't feel as related as they think they should to the culture of their parents, and that insecurity means they lash out.

It's very, very rarely in a nuanced way - it is, like this example, 'I see no asians therefore this isn't authentic therefore I can say what I want about it because muh culture', even though it's highly likely the reviewer has only as much claim to the culture she's defending as the head chef does. But she 'looks' asian and has an asian name, so suddenly she's more of an authority on this kind of food than someone who has studied it extensively is.

There's a few lolcow threads about people who build their entire personality around being an 'aggrieved minority', who either don't know or don't care that people from the culture they complain about so easily are always more pleased that people are partaking of and enjoying their culture over bitching about appropriation - with the few exceptions usually coming from something of great spiritual or traditional value being treated as a toy.
 

Fat Pikachu

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Nope, can’t think of anyone else who has boobs.
[AC sperg]"trannies don't have tits because they're either men or have them cut off" aside,
Gracie would be a much better candidate for this "omg trans babbu" shit because Gracie is an effeminate/implied gay man in JP versions of the game and a woman in the US/EU[/AC sperg]
 

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CNN recently posted an article on the "controversy" quoting Angela Hui heavily as their main source.

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/gordon-ramsey-asian-restaurant-cultural-appropriation-intl-scli/index.html
For fucks sake, that's not a controversy. She acted like an ass at GR's new restaurant about the races of the chefs and got called out for it.

This is gonna be another situation where Hui and her white knights/fellow racists are gonna start crusading against someone who couldn't give less of a fuck, and surprise surprise, nothing's going to change. A restaurant isn't suddenly going to fire it's executive chef (one chosen by Ramsey himself for that matter) just to hire some Asian guy to make a bunch of crybabies happy.
 

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[AC sperg]"trannies don't have tits because they're either men or have them cut off" aside,
Gracie would be a much better candidate for this "omg trans babbu" shit because Gracie is an effeminate/implied gay man in JP versions of the game and a woman in the US/EU[/AC sperg]
I'm sure there's people already out there like it, but they did the same thing for Sahara. NoA just thinks that Americans can't handle effeminate men.

I also saw someone claim Labelle is a transwoman who used to just be Label and that's why she and her sisters were separated for so long.
 
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Fat Pikachu

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I'm sure there's people already out there like it, but they did the same thing for Sahara. NoA just thinks that Americans can't handle effeminate men.

I also saw someone claim Labelle is a transwoman who used to just be Label and that's why she and her sisters were separated for so long.
Lol see I knew there was one more other than Gracie but I forgot who. You're right about Saharah.

NOA is particularly rabid when it comes to localization so anyone who thinks there could ever be a canon lgbt character in one of their main series games that doesn't get retconned for US releases [and/or isn't treated as a joke in JP versions, which they invariably are] is a cow.
 

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Every time I hear some stupid outrage over some “non black person” saying the word “nigger” I can’t help but roll my eyes.

Don't SJWs and "woke" black people not realize that if they don't want other non black groups saying "nigger", they should just shut up and stop saying the word all together. Especially rappers and tv shows.

those same people always go on about how “Not everyone in Africa is black! Africa is a diverse continent!!!!!” But it likely shock many of them that people from the Middle East And Indian sub continent are very much considered “Asian”.

I guess you can call someone “white” or “black” or “brown”, but call someone “yellow, “red” or be a non black person saying “nigger” and all hell breaks loose.
 
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I think the second-gen people get pissed off about appropriation because they deeply internalized shame about their parents' culture during school days when kids were assholes to them about being Chinese and pee-peeing in their Coke. Now they're in their 30s and can't understand that everyone changed since childhood, and everyone had the piss taken out of them about anything different and there was nothing unique about their specific racial difference.

"You all made fun of my family and said we ate General Tso's chicken every day when I was a kid, and now you want to learn authentic Chinese recipes? Fuck you!"

It's everyone's prerogative to hold on to childhood grudges, but it doesn't really make for a better world.
 

Fat Pikachu

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I think the second-gen people get pissed off about appropriation because they deeply internalized shame about their parents' culture during school days when kids were assholes to them about being Chinese and pee-peeing in their Coke. Now they're in their 30s and can't understand that everyone changed since childhood, and everyone had the piss taken out of them about anything different and there was nothing unique about their specific racial difference.

"You all made fun of my family and said we ate General Tso's chicken every day when I was a kid, and now you want to learn authentic Chinese recipes? Fuck you!"

It's everyone's prerogative to hold on to childhood grudges, but it doesn't really make for a better world.
Man I used to be made fun of for my heritage :( that honestly makes a lot of sense though.
 

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I think the second-gen people get pissed off about appropriation because they deeply internalized shame about their parents' culture during school days when kids were assholes to them about being Chinese and pee-peeing in their Coke. Now they're in their 30s and can't understand that everyone changed since childhood, and everyone had the piss taken out of them about anything different and there was nothing unique about their specific racial difference.

"You all made fun of my family and said we ate General Tso's chicken every day when I was a kid, and now you want to learn authentic Chinese recipes? Fuck you!"

It's everyone's prerogative to hold on to childhood grudges, but it doesn't really make for a better world.
Maybe, but eating General Tso's chicken every day would be badass.
 

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Omg the whole "appropriation" conversation is stupid to begin with but it's especially stupid in the context of food. There are very few cultures who's most common collection of foods isn't somehow influenced by another culture. People move around, they learn new techniques and ingredients, these get incorporated into other recipes. How do you even tease that all apart? Are Jamaicans racist for enjoying curry chicken so much, for instance? Or has curry been a Jamaican staple for a long enough period of time that it's now considered Jamaican? How far back do you have to go to decide who's allowed to eat what?
 

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Imagine being so far gone that you attack people issuing you an olive branch.
NPR: "Let's try to keep things civil."
NPC: (Autistic Shrieking.)
 

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Omg the whole "appropriation" conversation is stupid to begin with but it's especially stupid in the context of food. There are very few cultures who's most common collection of foods isn't somehow influenced by another culture. People move around, they learn new techniques and ingredients, these get incorporated into other recipes. How do you even tease that all apart? Are Jamaicans racist for enjoying curry chicken so much, for instance? Or has curry been a Jamaican staple for a long enough period of time that it's now considered Jamaican? How far back do you have to go to decide who's allowed to eat what?
You're unfortunately optimistic in assuming there's any rules other than REEEEEEEE WHITEY DIE in any of this bullshit. It's just about hating white people, period.
 

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