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Star Wars Griefing Thread (Formerly about Last Jedi)It's nothing like Empire... like.... at all, we promise

Discussion in 'Multimedia' started by CowReserach Inc., Jul 23, 2017.

  1. Well that is exceptional considering you generally keep a large military directly after a conflict to make sure things calm down at least for good 5-10 years as was with reconstruction South and wartorn West Germany
     
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  2. It gets worse, it was Mon Mothma that proposed that, you can look up the treaty that was mentioned earlier in this thread to see why the New republic was defeated so easily, why the First Order got allsupport it got in TLJ and how the Republic betrayed Leia
     
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  3. Or this is trying to come up with a logical reasoning to cover up a previous flaw in TFA and only coming up with 10 more.
     
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  4. What the fuck is with their obsession with making the OT characters into such short-sighted failures?

    I swear, it's bad enough that the ST shamelessly apes the OT as much as possible, but it's ridiculous how much they sandbag those characters just to prop up their own characters (really, the ST is a lame repeat of the OT, only their characters will "do it right" this time).
     
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  5. They did it because there is no creativity here. The people involved in the decision making process were all hacks who wanted the 'War' in Star Wars to continue, but they lacked the imagination to think the conflict could be anything other than the Empire vs the Rebel Alliance, so they just went with that, and just assumed the fanbase would be too braindead to care. They didn't explain anything in TFA because they didn't care, and they expected the same level of exceptional stupidity to be applied by the fans. Or perhaps they were hoping they could pull a Bethesda, and have the fans sort out all of the mistakes they made for free?
     
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  6. I'm not convinced they even know they're doing that. I think they genuinely believe Holdo was a good leader.

    What's the old joke? You can't write a character smarter than you are?
     
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  7. I'm paraphrasing a 4chan post on smart and dumb writers writing smart characters:
    Because it has smart characters written stupidly.

    Anton Chigurh from No Country for Old Men is a smartly written smart character. When Chigurh kills a hotel room full of three people he books to room next door so he can examine it, finding which walls he can shoot through, where the light switch is, what sort of cover is there etc. This is a smart thing to do because Chigurh is a smart person who is written by another smart person who understands how smart people think.

    Were Sherlock Holmes to kill a hotel room full of three people. He'd enter using a secret door in the hotel that he read about in a book ten years ago. He'd throw peanuts at one guy causing him to go into anaphylactic shock, as he had deduced from a dartboard with a picture of George Washington carver on it pinned to the wall that the man had a severe peanut allergy. The second man would then kill himself just according to plan as Sherlock had earlier deduced that him and the first man were homosexual lovers who couldn't live without eachother due to a faint scent of penis on each man's breath and a slight dilation of their pupils whenever they looked at each other. As for the third man, why Sherlock doesn't kill him at all. The third man removes his sunglasses and wig to reveal he actually WAS Sherlock the entire time. But Sherlock just entered through the Secret door and killed two people, how can there be two of him? The first Sherlock removes his mask to reveal he's actually Moriarty attempting to frame Sherlock for two murders. Sherlock however anticipated this, the two dead men stand up, they're undercover police officers, it was all a ruse. "But Sherlock!" Moriarty cries "That police officer blew his own head off, look at it, there's skull fragments on the wall, how is he fine now? How did you fake that?". Sherlock just winks at the screen, the end.

    This is exceptional because Sherlock is a smart person written by a stupid person to whom smart people are indistinguishable from wizards.
     
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  8. THIS

    You can see the same thing in TLJ where Holdo is supposed to be "a tactical genius" and... is not even a wizard, just still incredibly stupid.
     
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  9. Was George Washington Carver the guy who chopped up George Washington?
     
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  10. TLJ was kind of like Dunkirk, if instead of mobilizing everybody to save the army before it was destroyed, the army was just left on the beach, holding their breath in hopes the Germans wouldn't notice them. And then play such disaster as a win.
    Holdo was a complete fuckup who makes General Haig look good. At least he wanted to fight. Fight in a way that was rétarded, but fight. Every battle in TLJ was done as reluctantly and grudgingly as possible by the Resistance.
     
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    #4710 neverendingmidi, Sep 14, 2018
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  11. Solo was released in blu-ray recently, I watched it and have a slightly unpopular opinion. I think this is probably the worst movie by Disney so far, even worse than TLJ.

    Can someone explain to me why this movie exists? What bothered me the most was the acting, everyone but Woody Harrelson is HORRIBLE in this movie, they all showed amateurish acting to be kind. That nigga killed the Calrissian character, dude can't even talk with emotion.

    I can understand what the kid was trying to do impersonating Harrison Ford, he nailed the mannerisms, but everything feels so forced. You definitely can get the sensation they were in the 40th take of the shot as if it were a Kubrick movie, everything turns robotic that way. No flow whatsoever.

    Solo is a 100% useless movie, just a bunch of fanservice and the "genius" screenwriters throwing in your face that Leia is not the real love of Han's life. He actually loves some random whore in space, thanks, Disney. And what's the deal AGAIN with aliens? This movie has one alien character and he dies in the first 20 minutes, FUCK YOU DISNEY!

    The movie sucks so much that it can't even end properly. The final shot is amazing TBH, the hyper-space with the crescendo of the music... But then the camera shows that re-tarded dice on the cockpit before the fade-out. WTF DISNEY!!! FUCK YOU TWICE!!!

    I'm happy nobody watched this mess. This is one movie that deserved to fail.
     
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    #4711 Raging Capybara, Sep 14, 2018
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  13. The dice first showed up in TFA, and they decided to act like it was something that had been there the whole time and was tying shit together when they never existed on the OT. I honestly expect Disney to digitally edit the OT to have those stupid thing hanging as their way of claiming the OT.

    Every time I saw them in the trailer all I saw was Disney doing this:
     
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  14. That's not true.

    Paul Bettany was pretty good too.
     
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  15. Writing idiots is always tricky. The problem is that idiotic decisions get made all the time, but the key point is to make it credible by giving people a reason to be idiots. Nobody thinks they are idiots, even idiots.

    We need the New Republic to have a small military so they can be credibly blindsided by the First Order. Fine. A good military is as expensive as hell. The first Republic Army supported a coup. This could all be credible, but you need to know something about politics, and these people think saying the word pussy in private conversation is an impeachable offense.
     
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  16. The dice were there in only one scene of the OT as a joke and were eventually removed from set, but Disney for some reason thought such useless little things needed to be turned into these stupid symbolic artifacts to remind everyone Han Solo existed to make up for the fact that Ford didn't want anything to do with him, and in the end they really served no real purpose and their most relevant scene was deleted in TLJ. Originally before Disney, the dice were explained off as being the dice Han used in his sabacc game against Lando but they were never treated as anything important or symbolic and only appeared a few times in anything. But Disney just goes all out and has those stupid things appear everywhere in the new comics, books, movies and you can bet they'll put the dice in that new M. Falcon ride at Disney, despite that they're never of any use. They just show up in Solo for no reason and serve no real purpose (not even in sabacc) other than being cheap nostalgia bait because to Disney the dice are "deepest lore" as in "Hey, its those obscure dice from that one scene that only the biggest hardcore nerds who've wasted their lives watching the same movie 2000 times will notice! That'll make up for our lack of originality and laziness to actually explore or create lore!"

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    How much assburgers does it take to notice crap like this and then pretend they're super important? Because clearly the nature of these dice was totally what non-exceptional people really wanted to know about.
     
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    #4716 GeneralFriendliness, Sep 14, 2018
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  17. What's the timecode for that? I'm going to check my vhs copies with as paranoid as i am about these movies being changed.
     
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  18. The new trilogy is all about "not earning things".
    The ST didn't 'earn' the setting they are using, they just threw that on the screen.
    The new characters didn't earn their place in this story, they just stumbled into it.
    Rey didn't earn her powers, she just has them for no goddamned reason whatsoever.

    And the absolutely massive victory at comparatively low cost in the first battle was rewarded with a demotion, a slap to the face (that would get Leia court martialed in any decent army) and a hissyfit.

    You skipped the part where the Disney execs went "... also fuck those hardcore fans, they are not woke enough and they demand such weird things as consistency and quality, just toss them aside, surely our endless 'the force is female' blathering will attract copious amounts of new fans just as loyal as these guys!".

    And even there, it fails, since everything that's iconic about Solo is pretty much dropped in his lap unceremoniously.

    His name? Given to him by a random shmuck.
    His Blaster? Just some random boring blaster that happened to be at hand.
    The Falcon? Just some random ship he somehow obtained.
    Chewbacca? Just some guy he bumped into.
    Chewbacca's nickname? Just something Solo came up with randomly.
    Chewbacca's life debt? They sort of just broke out of jail or something.

    Hell, they even treat their own stupid dice this way, since they are just random objects that Han drags around for no reason.

    They made a fanservice movie and explained everything about Solo in the most boring and emotionless way possible.
    How do you even do that?
     
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  19. Disney found a way. Just like they found a way to transform a literal money printing machine like SW into a dumpster.
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    #4719 GeneralFriendliness, Sep 14, 2018
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  20. [​IMG]

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