Theryn Meyer / Daniël Meyer / dominodiaeresis / therynmilka - Trans MRA turned SJW to Fuck Contrapoints & Abandon her fiancé; "fucking wreck"

[ATaxingWoman]

Theryn Meyer/Daniël Meyer/dominodiaeresis/therynmilka

"I used to be a feminist, and I was a fucking wreck. I was eating up everything that feminism fed to me: that the world was out to get me, that the world was structured to not accommodate me. And of course that’s true to some extent, but it was the constant harping about it, and the idea that you can never do anything about it as an individual. When I finally turned my back on all that stuff and I started realizing the strength I have as an individual, that’s when I started becoming strong as a trans woman.” - Theryn Meyer​

Kudos to @Feline Darkmage for helping me out!

Introduction
*Note: Because so many people are used to it, I will be referring to Theryn as ”she” in this post.
Theryn Meyer (birth name: Daniël Meyer) is a South African-born Canadian citizen and controversial flip-flopping political trans Youtuber (MtF/TiM) who has been suspended from Twitter multiple times. Initially rising to fame as a conservative MRA trans waifu who hung out with other conservatives and MRAs, she caused controversy in early 2018 as she did a complete ideological 180° and converted to the ideology of righteous social justice activism. In the process, she decided to dump her fiancé (whom she was planning to get married to soon) and became a Tinder drunkard. Why? Most likely because she had fallen for Natalie/Nicholas Parrott, also known as Contrapoints or Nykytyne2 (Nyk).

Early life

Daniël and the gang

Not much is known about her early life, although Theryn has talked about growing up in Paarl, South Africa as a gender atypical homosexual boy and facing harassment for it in the past. One thing that is probably less well-known about her is that she used to be the pianist in a "popsical" band back in the day when she still went under the name of Daniël Meyer.

Men's rights activism era

"Feeling my conservative girl fantasy"
I. General MRA views
While Theryn has claimed that there was a period in her life where she was a ”non-binary SJW” and a feminist, her claim to fame can primarily be attributed to her activity on Youtube where she profiled herself as a libertarian MRA trans waifu. Some of the people she hung out with during this period include conservative trans dramacow Blaire/Robbie White, Honeybadger e-beggar Karen Straughan, internet daddy modernist Jordan B. Peterson, MRA scam artist Paul Elam and tradthot activist Lauren Southern (who was her best friend).

https://archive.li/XhbK8


https://archive.li/gaRpk#selection-5411.1-5534.0


"Demarxify your mind"

http://web.archive.org/web/20170904001532/https:/twitter.com/TherynMeyer
Examples of opinions Theryn used to hold

"The lovely Milo Yiannopoulos" (https://archive.li/bxmNn)

Collab stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMPEAR2imC4 (https://archive.li/erqfr)

from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_V9_j4dVuY (https://archive.li/t1OtE)

from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSQ_pZCP1w8 (https://archive.li/FvDjT) and made for The Baron Media, "a new media startup dedicated to preserving western civilization and it's values" which Theryn and her then-fiancé were associated with

from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4II9JuC0Kg (https://archive.li/Rg5Ng)

People she used to hang out with
She was also the president of the MRA group at her university, Simon Fraser University, and testified against Bill C-16 (transcript here):

Theryn Meyer, as an individual: My name is Theryn Meyer. I provide cultural commentary in written format and on YouTube with a focus on contemporary transgender issues.

As a trans woman myself, I take advantage of the freedom of speech that this amazing country has granted me to argue for tolerance and understanding for my fellow man, and to explore how best to negotiate integration of my transgender brothers and sisters into society. I don't believe there to be any other sustainable effective method to achieving these goals other than to speak up as individuals and make the case for it, which is exactly why I sit in front of you today.

"An Act to amend the Human Rights Act and Criminal Code'' affects the very process by which individual voices inspire change in a democratic society, and, in turn, Bill C-16 ultimately works against the very group it has been advertised to protect.

Before you accept the bill's purported purpose of equal protection for trans and gender non-conforming people under the law, consider the statements made by the sponsor of the bill, the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada, Jody Wilson-Raybould. After conceding that the open-endedness of the term "identifiable group'' within the Criminal Code already protects trans people under the law, Minister Wilson-Raybould admits that the purpose of her proposed bill is not so much to legally enshrine the protection of trans people but instead to send a clear message:

With this Bill, we say unequivocally that Canada can do better. . . . we say loudly and clearly that it is time to move beyond mere tolerance of trans people. It is time for their full acceptance and inclusion . . . .

. . . it would promote inclusion and respect for trans [people] . . . .

Equal rights for trans persons should not be hidden, but plain for all to see.

This does not sound like equal protection under the law. This sounds like Canada's most influential lawyer and her cronies playing the role of social justice activists with their political power.

In the final quote from Minister Wilson-Raybould:

Some of the words and concepts used in the discussion on Bill C-16 may not be familiar to all Canadians.

That is another unequivocal confirmation that the bill is not attempting to amend the law in response to a cultural shift, as it should work in a democratic society, but that the bill seeks instead to work in the reverse, using the force of law to intimidate Canadians and then branding it as promoting social change.

Besides being anti-democratic and anti-free speech in nature, the idea that Bill C-16 will inspire a better Canada for trans people is a dangerous delusion as it will do the exact opposite.

The definitions for "gender identity'' and "gender expression'' that the bill's supporters have proposed — one as something subjective and unverifiable, existing purely in the mind, and the other as being nothing more than fashion sense — are sure to breed a climate of hypersensitivity where people feel they need to walk on egg shells or even outright avoid trans people in fear of prosecution. Because of this, trans and gender non-conforming people will likely lose job opportunities as employers will avoid employing what would become a serious legal liability for them. Bill C- 16 risks perpetuating the already low economic standing of trans people.

The bill will also send the impression to Canadians that trans people are too weak to defend and make the case for their identities in a free society and that the only way for us to exist amongst others is to restrict by draconian law the freedoms of others. By turning us into a source of hypersensitivity, a legal liability and a group whose existence is contingent on the undue restriction of everyone else's freedom, Bill C-16 is a sure way to engender resentment, intolerance and true transphobia that will derail the process of acceptance and integration of trans people and keep us relegated to the margins of society.

If you truly care about trans and gender non-conforming people and our lives and livelihood, you will vote against Bill C-16.

Thank you.

II. Trans views
During the MRA era, Theryn managed to get herself permabanned from Twitter more than just once. This was not only because of her MRA opinions (which she has now denounced and calls problematic), but also because she already had a penchant for drama back then. Here she can be seen provoking Justin ”Riley” Dennis and Marina ”Marinashutup” Watanabe during an argument about the use of the word ”tranny”. About a month later, she was permanently suspended from Twitter (supposedly for calling a feminist a cunt).

However, she didn’t merely limit her drama-seeking to lesbian LARPers who don’t like the word ”tranny” and pop culture feminists who won’t shut up. Theryn has also sperged about ”TERFs” and fought with Blaire White over whether trans women are male or not; even during Theryn's conservative period, she held the opinion that ”trans women are women and calling them male is bigoted”.



Sperging about ”TERFs” and blocking them. (Theryn had a slap-fight with gender critical Youtuber Magdalen Berns over a video response [archive] she made).

Slapfighting with Blaire White (whom she has argued with on multiple occasions, although they have reconciled ever since) "It's not even a case of "oh, I feel like I should be this way. I AM female." (the original video has been deleted)

She even published an article where she talks about whether traps are gay. A few choice quotes:

Being a hot passing pre-op tranny myself may lend me some expertise in this very crucial branch of philosophical inquiry (Shall we call it ‘Me•t(r)ap•hysics’?). But given that I’m happily engaged to a bisexual man who has no reservations about my body, I have no personal horse in the race.

Well, you’d have to get so lucky and fuck a trap yourself to find out. But what I can guarantee you’ll find, apart from a feminine appearance, is a feminine presence: her behavior, body language, and responses to sexual stimuli are indistinguishable from any other woman you’ve been with, because the most important sexual organ, her brain, is decidedly female.

In the less technical sense, traps are not gay. Passing trans women relate to their partners as women, their partners see them as women, they love like women, have sex like women, and inhabit a female social identity as they go about in the world. So go ahead, trap-loving Proud Boys. This Proud Ladyboy® gives you the A-OK to indulge in but another flavor of woman among the numerous that await you in the bountiful delicatessen known as the sexual marketplace. Just one more thing to know beforehand – no teeth, please.

Dr. Strangelove – Or How Theryn Meyer Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Contrapoints (Political flip-flop and breaking up with her fiancé)

Hanging out with her new sweetheart
I. Prelude: Meeting Louis
During the MRA era, Theryn met the man who would become her fiancé within a month's period of time: Louis, the founder of the UBC Free Speech club (who can be seen talking here). As late as November 29th 2017, she was talking about getting married to him and even being wedded by Jordan B. Peterson (she also uploaded a clip from the stream on her channel which was then deleted in order to cover up; the video title and the description can still be seen in this blog post).


II. Becoming friends with Contrapoints/Nyk
In early 2017, Theryn encountered an individual who would come to have a remarkable influence on her: Contrapoints. Their first public interaction can be traced back to April 8th 2017 and they did a couple of collaboration livestreams together shortly after, titled Is Sex a Spectrum? | Transplaining episode 1 (May 4th 2017) and Conversation with Contrapoints (July 24th 2017). During the second livestream, Theryn stated that going on HRT had made her bisexual (more about that later). In spite of their political differences and occasional internet arguments, they eventually got on somewhat friendly terms with each other.
The first sign that something was amiss came in December 2017, when a discussion event that was supposed to take place between Contrapoints, Theryn and Blaire (and which the first-mentioned had received a lot of flack for from his fans because he was going to debate with ”literal nazis”) was abruptly cancelled. Both Contrapoints and Theryn blamed on Blaire ”dropping out” (or ”flaking out”, as Nyk puts it in this blowfile) without any explanation. Blaire, however, claimed to have confirmed her attendance multiple times in a row despite a shorter lapse of two weeks of her being hard to reach and that it was Theryn who was to blame for the event being cancelled, something which lead to yet more drama.


In the end, Theryn ended up organizing a smaller event (archive) with Contrapoints and without Blaire which occurred on February 24th 2018. The observant will notice that during the sequence where Nyk is criticizing Jordan B. Peterson for being against pronoun policing, Theryn is just sitting there and listening complicitly – less than a year after she testified against pronoun policing and argued in favor of Peterson's stance. To quote a Swenglish proverb: "it goes fast in hockey".

Shortly afterwards, Theryn uploaded a video titled ”Dear Non-Binary People: I’m Sorry” (unarchived but can be seen on the channel page here) and which indicated a significant shift in her political views. Incidentally, this change of heart just so happened to occur during a period of time where Theryn was becoming increasingly chummy with Nyk.

On March 8th, MRA Youtuber Prince of Queens uploaded two videos (here and here) where he talked about how he was called out for "misgendering" Contrapoints because he only referred to him by his name as he was unsure of what he identified as (meaning that he didn't want to assume Nyk's "gender", which is ironic given how social justice advocates constantly preach the importance of not assuming everybody identifies with the "gender that was assigned to them at birth"). The pro-Contra driving force in the conflict was... Theryn (Contrapoints joined in later).

One day later, Theryn posted an image of her kissing Nyk while watching RuPaul’s drag race. The same day, they did a livestream together where Theryn voiced her support for views that she would never have agreed with before (such as "I understand why some feminists who have had bad experiences with men hate them"and "a lot of men are a lot of shit") and which ended with Nyk drunkly sucking on (then engaged to somebody else) Theryn’s collarbones. Additionally, despite claiming to have become bisexual due to going on HRT, she admitted she had never been able to get a girlfriend.

III. Breaking up with her fiancé and starting anew
On June 15th, Theryn called Contrapoints during a livestream to announce that she had broken up with her fiancé and told people to come to Vancouver and swipe her on Tinder. Another steamy session occurred on August 18 during a livestream, where Theryn and Nyk started making out and Theryn also apologized for being ”problematic” throughout (it was taken down shortly after but witness accounts of it can be read here).August 2018 marked yet another turning point in Theryn’s career as she (either before or after she was suspended from Twitter for the umpteenth time) deleted her old Youtube channel without any forewarning. Her Youtube presence was then reincarnated in the form of her new Youtube channel, Theryn, and an unhinged video called ”Talking about why I left Youtube while slowly losing my mind" in which she claims that she was akchually just pretending to be a conservative MRA all those years and that the recent meltdown she had was, in fact, a manifestation of her real self. Is it a coincidence that all of this happened after Theryn became acquainted with Contrapoints? Most certainly not.

Recent events

TFW no BF

Since the creation of her new channel and her first video, Theryn has uploaded four more videos (of which two have to do with a school project) in which she acts deranged and ”exposes herself” to her audience. In one video, she talks about her "problematic past while being fully problematic", and her latest video, she cries because none of her lovers are committal while asserting that she loves being promiscuous and calls herself a whore.

https://archive.li/t1hOS
When creating her new Youtube account, she also created a new Twitter profile (HeyItsTheryn). It is now... you guessed correctly, suspended.

In November 2018, she started an Instagram campaign called #Blendout which revolved around the subject of ”passing” (unsurprisingly, it features Contrapoints).

In parity with the ”I love being problematic and promiscuous” shtick she’s got going on, she’s been uploading more semi-nudes of herself on Instagram lately:

Spoiler: NSFW?

August 2019 update: Theryn has now deleted her new Youtube channel. Will she ever make a second Youtube comeback? Who knows!

Social media
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Theryn-Meyer/1820703780 (http://archive.ph/hgXTw)
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heyitstheryn/
Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/therynmilka
Twitter 1 (suspended): https://twitter.com/TherynMeyer (archive 1 & archive 2)
Twitter 2 (suspended, no archives available): https://twitter.com/milkameyer
Twitter 3 (suspended): https://twitter.com/TheTherynMeyer/ (https://archive.li/IsaQf)
Twitter 4 (suspended): https://twitter.com/HeyItsTheryn (https://archive.li/64FGc)
Youtube 1 (deleted): https://www.youtube.com/user/DominoDiaeresis (https://archive.li/IAMgc)
Youtube 2 (deleted): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVasp64N6SxVD8Hf1RESi6w/ (https://archive.li/maJxv)

Spoiler: Instagram & Soundcloud screenshots

Spoiler: Pre-trans

 

[Love Soze]

God yes. I'm surprised this crazy tranny doesn't already have a thread. He is just getting worse and worse.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Thank you for your work @ATaxingWoman you did a very good job at depicting Theryn’s change.

No matter how much Theryn tries to change for Nyk, Nyk will never love anyone more than himself. Theryn trying to attach herself to him is only going to end badly.

 

[SugarSnot]

Saw this person pop up here and there in youtube circles I had a passing interest in. She never stood out much other than being trans and agreeing with some controversial opinions. It doesn't surprise me that she's caught up in a vortex of confusion. I don't think I heard an original thought come out of her mouth on the shows I saw her.

It's a bit sad, really. A person desperate for an identity that fills their head with other people's opinions until conflicting thoughts just fragments their mind into incoherent mush. Oh well, hoping for a fun thread as this life goes the way it goes.

 

[Feline Darkmage]

Theryn is certifiably insane and I'm convinced her constant flip-flopping, complete mental breakdowns, and DFEing/getting banned are caused by unmedicated bipolar manic-depression. It doesn't help that she always winds up in lolcow-filled drama cliques like the MRA's or pseudo-intellectual youtube SJWs and has next to no critical thinking skills.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

Check out this comment about how transitioning was introduced in South Africa, from one of the Lactatia threads here on KF:

Fun Fact: The first instance of a Government providing HRT and SRS was during the Cold War the South African Army turned their gays into troons to get rid of Homosexuality in their army.

They did this because they found out it was the only way to cure Homosexuality as all other methods failed.

https://kiwifarms.net/posts/2936087/​

 

[XE 600]

I'm not surprised that she finally got a thread, I even tried to find if she had a thread here on here yesterday whilst I was reading through the Contrapoints thread and was surprised to see that Theryn didn't have one but I had a feeling it was going to come sooner rather than later. I just didn't know how soon.

This also reminds me how a couple of years ago, a friend of mine was talking to me about how they were friends (I would say that they were probably more acquaintances but whatever) and how she spoke shit about Blaire White in a couple of their chats (this was during the period when she and Blaire were friends). It's a shame Theryn turned into what she is now, I use to enjoy her content on YouTube even if I did find a couple of her videos cringy.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Theryn is undeniably unhinged.

There is no way in hell anybody can convince me that there aren't mental health problems.

 

[XE 600]

There is no way in hell anybody can convince me that there aren't mental health problems.

She's a tranny. It goes without saying that there's mental health problems.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

She's a tranny. It goes without saying that there's mental health problems.

Theryn has become quite the mascot for that notion ...

But for shits and giggles, let's take the "tranny" part out of the equation: Theryn is still mentally unhinged. She displays abnormal behavior by everyone's standards. Trans or not, I think Theryn is a disturbed individual.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

Nyk claimed at the time that Theryn lost her audience because she began criticizing the alt right. That is simply not true. She lost her audience when she got booted from Twitter for bullying Riley Dennis. A person Nyk once defended against Theryn and Blaire criticizing him. Theryn got back on Twitter because she realized that she could not survive as a vlogger if she didn't regularly get herself involved in some kind of social media drama she could exploit for financial gain. Her account is a drama account and she knows that is her fore. I chuckled when Nyk said of Theryn, "she is too smart for right wing pandering". Well Nyk, maybe she is too smart for you too. What did the scorpion say to the otter? Theryn exploiting her friendship and later relationship to Nyk also plainly smacks of self promotion and exploitation.

Nyk and Theryn are both very narcissistic but I don't know yet who is manipulating whom here. Is Theryn manipulating Nyk or is Nyk manipulating Theryn? They are both love-bombing eachother hard, and getting lovebombed by their audiences in return who are witnesses to the courtship, as narcissists are prone to do with their target (they love-bomb their pray to passify them) but when you are dealing with two narcissistic personalities it is hard to tell who has the upperhand in such a codependent relationship nexus. It's too easy to assume that Nyk is Theryn's Personal Jesus and SJW cult guru. Because the fact is that Theryn was getting married, and Nyk was basically just her side-bitch for the duration of her bachelor party-period, only Theryn decided to extend the bachelor party and cancel the wedding. So who is using whom here? I think it is best to leave narcissists to themselves. The more narcissists pair up with each other the better it is for the rest of society being spared the damage that narcissists usually cause in their relationships. As for Nyk's obviously sexual relationship to Theryn, Theryn started out as a homosexual boy before transitioning, so Theryn falling in love with Nyk is nothing unusual for Theryn. Nyk on the other hand admitted in one of the now deleted pre-transition Livestreams having absolutely no homosexual experiences whatsoever pre-transition and being "pretty much straight" (though Nyk did alude to being a trannie chaser pre-HRT and was also streaming trannie porn on Blogtv before his audience during his streams), so I guess Theryn is basically "breaking-in" Nyk.

a friend of mine was talking to me about how they were friends (I would say that they were probably more acquaintances but whatever) and how she spoke shit about Blaire White in a couple of their chats (this was during the period when she and Blaire were friends).

Don't worry, Blaire herself was making fun of Theryn being such a bimbo:

I almost regret that the meeting in Vancouver didn't take place in its original line up so that it would turn into a bunch of catty bitchy transwomen frenemies fighting eachother with Blaire dominating everyone in her typical take-no-prisoners domineering style.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Nyk claimed at the time that Theryn lost her audience because she began criticizing the alt right. That is simply not true. She lost her audience when she got booted from Twitter for bullying Riley Dennis. A person Nyk once defended against Theryn and Blaire criticizing him. Theryn got back on Twitter because she realized that she could not survive as a vlogger if she didn't regularly get herself involved in some kind of social media drama she could exploit for financial gain. Her account is a drama account and she knows that is her fore. I chuckled when Nyk said of Theryn, "she is too smart for right wing pandering". Well Nyk, maybe she is too smart for you too. What did the scorpion say to the otter? Theryn exploiting her friendship and later relationship to Nyk also plainly smacks of self promotion and exploitation.

Nyk and Theryn are both very narcissistic but I don't know yet who is manipulating whom here. Is Theryn manipulating Nyk or is Nyk manipulating Theryn? They are both love-bombing eachother hard, and getting lovebombed by their audiences in return who are witnesses to the courtship, as narcissists are prone to do with their target (they love-bomb their pray to passify them) but when you are dealing with two narcissistic personalities it is hard to tell who has the upperhand in such a codependent relationship nexus. It's too easy to assume that Nyk is Theryn's Personal Jesus and SJW cult guru. Because the fact is that Theryn was getting married, and Nyk was basically just her side-bitch for the duration of her bachelor party-period, only Theryn decided to extend the bachelor party and cancel the wedding. So who is using whom here? I think it is best to leave narcissists to themselves. The more narcissists pair up with each other the better it is for the rest of society being spared the damage that narcissists usually cause in their relationships. As for Nyk's obviously sexual relationship to Theryn, Theryn started out as a homosexual boy before transitioning, so Theryn falling in love with Nyk is nothing unusual for Theryn. Nyk on the other hand admitted in one of the now deleted pre-transition Livestreams having absolutely no homosexual experiences whatsoever pre-transition and being "pretty much straight" (though Nyk did alude to being a trannie chaser pre-HRT and was also streaming trannie porn on Blogtv before his audience during his streams), so I guess Theryn is basically "breaking-in" Nyk.



Don't worry, Blaire herself was making fun of Theryn being such a bimbo:

I almost regret that the meeting in Vancouver didn't take place in its original line up so that it would turn into a bunch of catty bitchy transwomen frenemies fighting eachother with Blaire dominating everyone in her typical take-no-prisoners domineering style.

ContraPoints is a disingenuous asshole.

I started to turn sour on Theryn fast when she completely flipped out on Roaming Millennial in some livestream discussion about a year ago. Some Alt-Right faggot said something about conversion therapy for LGBT individuals, and Roaming Millennial very plainly stated, "I would like to say that I don't stand by ANYTHING that this person is saying," and then Theryn completely trooned out on her, saying she's basically Alt-Right because she once interviewed Richard Spencer. Theryn was literally screaming at her.

Yes, because interviewing someone means that they agree with them? What the hell? If you are a journalist, then OF COURSE you want a high profile interview like Richard Spencer (who is a nobody at this point but was a big name in 2017, but I digress). It was unfair what Theryn did to Roaming Millennial.

Shortly after that livestream, Theryn made that pro-nonbinary video, and I was 100% DONE at that point. Since then, Theryn has acted like a damn lunatic.

Also, that video with Blaire is fucking hilarious. I miss when she was more savage against these idiots. She was a lot more entertaining back then.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

I started to turn sour on Theryn fast when she completely flipped out on Roaming Millennial in some livestream discussion about a year ago. Some Alt-Right faggot said something about conversion therapy for LGBT individuals, and Roaming Millennial very plainly stated, "I would like to say that I don't stand by ANYTHING that this person is saying," and then Theryn completely trooned out on her, saying she's basically Alt-Right because she once interviewed Richard Spencer. Theryn was literally screaming at her.

That was on Lauren Southern's Electric Boogaloo Livestream with Nick Fuentes, who was 18 years old at the time and an Alex Jones fanboy clone, of course he's gonna say some dumb, uneducated shit. Nyk, who refuses to debate TERFs and Natsees in principle, nevertheless joined that Livestream with Lauren and Nick Fuentes at Theryn's request (gotta violate your political principles to get a taste of that sweet sweet ladydick), but he got triggered by Fuentes, lost his shit and left the stream early, leaving Destiny and Theryn behind alone to fight the Natsees for him:

Theryn and Nyk both need to STFU about that Roaming Millennial's interview. Errol Morris, one of the most respected liberal documentary makers just did a docmentary about Bannon where he basically just interviews him, and it's the best political documentary that came out last year, no matter how you feel about Bannon being "the reincarnation of Goebbels". Errol Morris too got a lot of shit for interviewing Bannon for his documentary, so it's typical how these SJW types gave Lauren Chen the same treatment. Nyk/ContraPoints already took Lauren to task for that interview himself, he surely did not Theryn as his lapdog/attack dog for backup. Lauren Chen might have interviewed Richard Spencer but Theryn herself is BFF with Lauren, a far right provocateur who is literally not allowed to enter certain countries for being a known provocateur with foreign intelligence agencies. I don't wanna get all conspiratorial here but I always wondered whether Theryn herself is also under surveillance or banned from travelling to certain countries for being closely associated with Lauren. When Lauren and Theryn were on Rebel Media they used to collab on videos together, so it was long known that Theryn was close associate and colleague of Lauren's, there was even a video of them getting drunk together in bed (with their clothes on) on a Livestream that was later taken down. I also wonder whether the SJW flipflop with Nyk was meant to throw the intelligence agencies off, with Theryn pretending to completely denounce the views that she has long shared with Lauren but eventually that got Lauren in trouble with intelligence agencies.

 

[Stock Photo James]

When it comes to such flip-flopers I often can't tell if they're genuinely that unhinged and can't stop resorting to extremes and 180 degree turns, or is that just opportunism for personal gain or social favours. Either way better stay away from them

 

[Feline Darkmage]

When it comes to such flip-flopers I often can't tell if they're genuinely that unhinged and can't stop resorting to extremes and 180 degree turns, or is that just opportunism for personal gain or social favours. Either way better stay away from them

In my opinion there's a pretty obvious distinction that I'm not sure how to articulate. I just kind of know it when I see it. Theryn would be an example of the unhinged flip-flopper because she seems motivated by some deep insecurity and freaks out all the time. Where-as there is an obviously more cynical and exploitative kind of flip-flopper that does it for personal gain usually politicians like Romney or Clinton but a few people who have threads on here would fit, but I'm drawing a blank on who. Maybe Ian Chungus?

 

[Sinners Sandwich]

Fun Fact: The first instance of a Government providing HRT and SRS was during the Cold War the South African Army turned their gays into troons to get rid of Homosexuality in their army.

They did this because they found out it was the only way to cure Homosexuality as all other methods failed.

This was actually really cruel and unethical. Gay men were forced to have their genitals multilated. I don't think you can call these poor men troons.

 

[Alex Krycek]

To think I used to be sympathetic to this person. Well shit, times have changed.

 

[verissimus]

To think I used to be sympathetic to this person. Well shit, times have changed.

Been there before with Dr. Peterson till he decided to wholeheartedly back Carl Benjamin out of principle when that pos has none.

 

[RadicalCentrist]

Should all South Africans troon out to get that sweet refugee status?

Also lmao at being "wedded" by Peterson. To clean your room in sickness and in health.

 

[Heckler1]

Its funny, I remember watching her way back when she started, then sort of the beginning of her ride on the crazy train, but the actual decent I had been unaware of. Kinda sad to see how things have gone, but shes got no one to blame but herself.