Thorne Melcher / "Horny Thorney" / ExistentialEnso - CTO of a Scam Website, Pretend Journalist, Whiteknight of Rapist Laurelai Bailey, Hates Leftists, Guilt Tripping People After a "Suicide Attempt"

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In the Sick of It

Kir/Kirb/Kirbself
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This surgery song and dance is hilarious yet exhausting. I'm glad people are questioning this shit but I'm baffled at those still supporting. How could you possibly believe major surgery works this way? That it can be scheduled last minute, in a different state, that financing changes by the day, etc etc. Question it and you get told you don't know shit about trans surgery during covid. The simplest hole in all of this is that you have to fast before going under anesthesia even for the most minor surgeries.
 

Surfin Terf

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idk how y'all missed this but along with 10 articles on soylent, japanese cold cases and "toxic masculinity" horny thorney recently published a google doc about how he groomed and preyed on a vulnerable teenager who then committed suicide.

his current wretched handmaiden tweeted it out for whatever reason. of course NONE of what happened was thorney's fault. nothing ever is!

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Today, an anonymous Twitter user began spreading half-truths about events between 2009-2013.

A few months after I turned 21, in fall 2009, a girl named Estee messaged me on OkCupid claiming to be 18. We talked for a bit and, on Sunday (relevant later), October 25th, 2009, went on one boring, unremarkable date. We met up at Panera, ate, walked around Barnes & Noble for a bit, and she left. I stuck around and went book shopping. She admitted afterward she was 17 and not turning 18 until the following summer. I said I wasn’t interested in continuing to talk to her.

Despite this, Estee continued to contact me, expressing how suicidal she was and how violent and angry her father always was towards her.

The second time I ever saw Estee in person was in November with her mom at a cafe, Joli Kobe in Sandy Springs. She had convinced her mom to hire me as a tutor in the evenings, paying $100/night and free food for at most 2 hours work. She and her mom were also convinced that her dad would behave better with me around the house a lot. I needed the money and reluctantly agreed.

Estee was infatuated with me, so this was a big mistake. She started making threats to kill herself if she couldn’t be with me, which I told her parents. Her mom, much to my bafflement, encouraged us to be together on the basis we were only a few years apart, the age of consent in Georgia is 16, and she thought I was a good influence on her. Her dad was fine with it, even if less enthusiastic. I was an awkward virgin who only let things develop romantically with her parents supporting the decision.

As they saw it, with the tutoring arrangement, she and I spent most of our quality time together under their roof, and it led to Estee being happy to spend evenings at home with both them and me. I continued to tutor her several nights a week at her parents’ house, eating dinner with the three of them and collecting the much needed cash.

We only ever went places on Sundays with her parents’ permission and strict curfew. Why Sunday? Though Estee did not want to be a practicing Jew, her parents were strict Orthodox Jews. Because of this, from sundown on Friday to sundown on Saturday, everyone in the household was expected to strictly adhere to Shabbat restrictions. So I wouldn’t even talk to her for one day a week.

They lived in Cobb County in the northern metro Atlanta area, but I lived in Toco Hills, the most heavily Jewish neighborhood in the South. Not only did they know that we were often going back to my place on Sundays, they wanted us to, giving me extra money so I could pick up Kosher groceries and shawarma from the area to bring back when I took her home.

I handled this arrangement well. She did not. On multiple Shabbats, she routinely expressed wanting to kill herself to her parents because of not being able to talk to me. In Spring of 2010, her parents committed her to a mental hospital for a couple of months. I intended to move on, going through a bout of deep depression myself because of desperation about my dysphoria.

Summer 2010, after Estee got out of the mental hospital and around her 18th birthday, she began contacting me again. She insisted she was doing a lot better mentally and on meds that were working. The only problem was that she was still desperate to not have to live with her father, though she did not express any suicidality. She and I moved in together.

Despite this, on top of still eating at her parents’ house a few nights a week, her mom visited regularly and would buy us groceries, especially since the apartment we got was also in the Toco Hills area, so we were close to an abundance of Kosher food.

Towards the tail end of 2010, Estee started developing a debilitating and painful set of symptoms doctors could never explain. This set off a 2+ year process of, while still on her parents’ gold-tier insurance plan thanks to an Obamacare clause which recently took effect, going to every specialist we could find in the area and getting every test she could get run, but to no avail. Her mental health fell apart more and more, and she constantly lashed out at everyone around her, but I tolerated it, as I felt like she just needed answers.

By the end of 2011, she spent almost all her waking hours smoking weed and playing World of Warcraft. I was doing both of those too at the time — but I was also coding Android apps to make money and taking care of her as well.

She found a WoW guild that doubled as an emotional support group for people in Georgia that held occasional meetups and joined. When the guild had a meetup, I encouraged her to go, and it was the first time she had wanted to do anything fun out of the house in ages. I hoped it would help her connect with more people and get her spirits up. She never wanted to do anything that required moving around because of the pain, both emotional and physical. She insisted on going alone, and I later found out that she cheated on me with a 40-something guy there.

A few weeks later, in summer 2012, Estee suddenly moved back in with her parents without explanation. This baffled me at the time. I had endured so much and did everything I could to help, and she just left me to go back to a place with the man she routinely called abusive. In retrospect, I’m certain it was out of guilt.

I decided now was the time to transition. I made significant progress towards getting HRT — before she started contacting me again a couple of months later, wanting me back, expressing how suicidal she was, and how badly a recent hospital stay had traumatized her. I reluctantly got back together with her again in October 2012.

Estee was bisexual, and so I hoped that she would be okay with me being transgender. I learned she tried to be a third for a man/woman couple before getting back with me. They wound up not being interested in dating her but were worried about her and wanted to help her, so she introduced me to them. I’m still friends with both of them, though they split up years ago.

Around this time, she was the first non-mental health professional I came out to. She reacted horribly, talking about how I would be a disgusting freak who no one would love, and how I would be “betraying” her by doing it. Given that, on many occasions in the past, she said she was more into women than men and liked that I had a girlish personality, I played it off as “trying to make her happy” along those lines and held off transitioning for a couple of more months.

I quickly realized that, as much as I felt sorry for Estee and wanted to help her, I just could not deal with her problems anymore and needed to transition. I told her in December 2012 that it was over. She said she would kill herself if I broke up with her. I maintained I couldn’t do it anymore, so she locked herself in the bedroom, saying she was taking all the pills she could. The police broke down the bedroom door, and she was taken to the ER, had her stomach pumped, and survived. She was committed to a mental hospital immediately after. This was the last night I ever saw or said anything at all to Estee.

Shortly after, on December 28th, 2012, I began HRT, in a weird place about a lot but finally feeling hope for the first time in a while.

She messaged me a few months later saying she was out of the hospital and now accepted my being trans, but I never responded. A few months after that, in summer 2013, she finally, tragically, succeeded at taking her own life while living with her parents. This messed me up for awhile, because I felt guilty for not holding out longer, for providing her a place she could feel safer, for not responding to her texts, but being with her was destroying my mental health, and I had done everything I could for over 3 years to help her. That relationship gave me a lot of baggage, which I have talked about in depth and at length honestly and candidly with both Mandy and therapists.

It was hard to accept that I had done enough to prevent what happened, even if I hadn’t seen her in months. I desperately wanted her to have answers for her medical issue, but they never came. I forgave her for cheating. The one thing I hold against Estee is how deeply emotionally manipulative she was. I feel massive, profound guilt for expressing how genuinely suicidal I am lately, and it’s because I always think about how she used threats of suicide to get her way. But I genuinely feel deeply hopeless over surgery delays and finances.

Were I to do it all over again, I would have never talked to her again after learning of her initial lie about her age, and it took her sending a lot of messages before I finally replied. Afterward, I only let what was supposed to be a tutoring gig and a friendship become a romantic relationship because her parents supported it. From very early on, she constantly made me out to be the only one who could save her from her problems, and ultimately I couldn’t.

As my mental health has fallen apart over surgery delays, I dwell constantly on the fact that I watched someone I cared about a lot go into a long, irreversible period of decline in mental health that could not be stopped no matter how hard I tried. I never had serious issues with suicide until 2019. The suicidal thought process I have constantly is, “I’m on the same course as Estee, never able to get the medical help I need — things are never going to get better, so I might as well just hurry the agonizing process up.”

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Wow, I've just gone through this entire thread and he's been using Estee to justify his role as CTO of CrowdMed for years now (she had a debilitating and completely undiagnosable medical problem that drove her to suicide (according to Thorne) and that's why it's actually good to have you pay to publish your medical information so that completely anonymous MDs (medical detectives) diagnose you is actually not a horrible idea). So I assume that some of the basics of the story are correct.

I believe that
  • Estee claimed to have an undiagnosable medical problem that required her to sit around, smoke pot, and play WoW
  • I believe that Estee was clearly mentally ill and a minor when Thorne moved in on her
Otherwise it sounds like bullshit. But even if we do accept that somehow a significantly-older, fat, prematurely balding nerd who has never once showed any sign of empathy for anyone else was completely irresistible to Estee, so clearly worthy as a son-in-law to her mother that she paid hundreds of dollars a week to keep him around, and that everyone viewed this fucking loser as Estee's mental health salvation... even if we do accept all that obvious bullshit he still doesn't sound good. He still comes out of this whole thing as simultaneously a passive little bitch and a self-absorbed narcissist, you know, just like he does to this day with his relationship with Mandy .
 

Positron

Wearing the same blue mask since 2004
True & Honest Fan
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No, you're right. A major procedure like that requires preparation time, and the doctor will want to do a pre-examination to look at your junk and decide things like how much material they have to work with,
I feel like an idiot for not realizing something till now: bowel prep. Even genuine idiots like Phil ADF knew about bowel prep. How would Thorne expect his followers who have undergone this kind of surgry to miss this little detail? All he knows about cock chop he got it from I Am Jazz, which means he is not serious about it at all.

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Because each game of Monopoly ends with people dogpiling on the winner and call him or her Capitalist bloodsucker.

Sometimes politics is this simple:
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ROBOTIC DICK INVERSION IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS! 7/21!!! MARK THE DATE!
No, fooled again!
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One of the payoffs of this song and dance is that it is a very good excuse to not get a job:
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He still insists that the cock chop would be "life saving". Unfortunately he is too fat by 20 pounds:
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He could have the easy way out but somehow he didn't take it. This proves how "suicidal" he is.

Don't say "traumatic"! Our Thorne's little heart can't stand this horrible word! It's a very straightforward surgery and he'd be out and about on day 3!
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Bizarrely he brings Hume into his surgery argument:
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This is EMPHATICALLY NOT WHAT HUME WOULD SAY! Let's indulge Throne and grant him that his "empirical evidence" checks out. Hume, seeing the data, would muse "Well there are a bunch of shemales getting their cocks chopped off. Some time later we find them in a happier state. Because of the temporal sequence of events we are tempted to see them as cause and effect, but there is really no justification for that -- "cause" and "effect" are really outside our empirical sphere; they are notions that we impose on the world. Okay okay, without the notions of cause and effect we can't do science, so suit yourself."

And it has just dawned on our former child prodigy that Starfucks would be his savior.
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Now Tranny Rights Activists claim that the pipe-bomb threat J. K. Rowling received was not sent by a troon:
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It doesn't matter what crackpot Russia politics that person subscribes; his threat was in response to Rowling's "And together, we will win" message addressed to TRAs.

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Yellow Yam Scam

Devil get behind me, I'm loose, I'm free.
True & Honest Fan
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I'M NOT OBSESSED WITH THORNE MELCHER, YOU'RE OBSESSED WITH HIM.

This is pure speculation but I'm going to make a guess about what lies in the future for Thorne and Mandy. In the past few days, both seemed to have changed their focus from getting Thorne surgery to "saving" the farm that they live on. The claim is that they need several thousand dollars before the end of the month (July) - but the amount of thousands is pretty hard to pin down.

They have tried in vain to raise the required money. Here, they claim $15,000.
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At one point, 21K was the number.
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And the "21K" was needed by the "30th." This would have been the 30th of June, but, whatever.
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The number seems to have fallen to 10K. Mandy somehow thinks that her commissions are going to help bring that number down substantially.
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Why 10K? We can't be certain but I suspect it has something to do with this:
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Interestingly, in June, the first mention of the housing issues pop up on surgery GFM in the form of an update, seemingly in an attempt tie the housing needs to the more successful GFM.
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She also began talking about the housing issues when pimping out the GFM on twitter.
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My theory is that around the end of this month, they will claim to have had to use all of the GFM money from Thorne's surgery to "save" the farm and with no money left to pursue the surgery, they are now off the hook for using those funds for what they were actually raised for. Thorne may have wanted the surgery at one point, but clearly does not now and is using this shift in fundraising motivations to account for where the funds have gone.

This theory could also explain why they insist on claiming that the surgeries are scheduled so frequently. They want to express that they are trying their best to get the surgery done as often as they can so that when they throw their hands up and quit at the end of the month, detractors will have a hard time claiming that surgery was never the plan. There is a hole in this theory though, which is that the scheduling madness began long before they began publicly claiming that they were going to lose the house. Perhaps they realized quickly after creating the GFM that there would be no surgery and instead of using the funds for housing, they just used it for their living expenses since neither of them are employed? Anyways, we'll see soon enough!
 
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GenderCop

Friendly neighborhood gender cop
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Thorne is edging out Zinnia as my favorite rat king, with all the fake-surgery dates. THIS IS EPIC, thanks for chronicling it you guys.

Are we sure Mandy is real? If so, is it possible he sometimes tweets on her account?
I can't believe anybody puts up with this asshole, but then, I'd never believe Heather existed if I didn't see it with my own eyes, for years now too.

I don't think even Zack/Zinnia would try the fake-surgery routine, thats a lot of high-level fakery. Fake-college is as far as he'll go. Zack is therefore smarter than Thorny (or less crazy?) since he realizes he doesn't know surgical stuff and is aware of his limitations. That's why Zack relies on psycho-bullshit, but his is much better than Thorny's whining.

Zack sounds like some old juiced-up Jackie Collins housewife novel but Thorny sounds like somebody who learned medical procedures from watching "House" reruns.

great entertainment, great sleuthing, thanks for the work, farmers. :semperfidelis:
 

Positron

Wearing the same blue mask since 2004
True & Honest Fan
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As of this week, surgery recovery is too brutal for him:
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Shut-in confirmed:
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Surprisingly, no one wants to hire a nutjob:
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He started self-administering estrogen since 19:
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Crossover with TruMetis, another of MovieBob's hateful, if not genocidal, followers:
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The Penis in Wi Spa continues to be a hoax:
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Yellow Yam Scam

Devil get behind me, I'm loose, I'm free.
True & Honest Fan
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No meaningful updates tonight other than Mandy begging for money for a power bill. She is attempting to use both @fumeiji and @fumeijiii but has apparently locked herself out of @fumeijiii.

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Strangely (I think?) Thorne was also doing some weird account shenanigans at the same time. There is something incredibly peculiar about these two's online presences. I just can't figure it out...
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Also he's sad
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Yellow Yam Scam

Devil get behind me, I'm loose, I'm free.
True & Honest Fan
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It's been a day for Thorne.

First, we get his signature no-top-of-the-head 5 o'clock shadow AGP smirk selfie. No idea what is meant to be communicated by this expression apart from high functioning autism.
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As always there is trouble on the homefront. Now they need a smooth $20K. And that GFM? Well...bad news, that money ain't gonna be available soon enough anyway. They're gonna go ahead and refund all GFM money...eventually....right....lmao. Instead, you can just contact Mandy to get info so that you can contact the company directly with the payment, which sounds super legit. This means that the current amount of donations is now untrackable in any public way.
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Thorne wrote a substack article about losing the house. It's mostly the same old shit but there are a few interesting bits such as:

"I need gender confirmation surgery. This should resolve itself soon. The delays to this complicate finding a job, though. We have a hospital where everything is squared away to take action at the next available opening."
"In August 2020, I was scheduled to finally get gender confirmation surgery, a procedure I have desperately needed for years. But the pandemic caused repeated delays."
"My employer grew increasingly angry and made up a reason to fire me in February 2021. I can prove the reason is false — that I had not filed appropriate medical leave paperwork with MetLife — and am working with a great lawyer on contingency to sue for wrongful termination. This will bring in money eventually but not soon enough to help."
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A GoFundMe we started last year raised enough to pay for the out-of-pocket expenses for surgery. Those funds are in the hands of the insurance company, and surgery will happen very soon."


It is included in its entirety below.

The Big Smol Farm Crisis​

We need help badly. Please share this wherever you can.​

Thorne Melcher
22 hr ago1

Things are bad. Very bad. I’m a trans woman, and my cis girlfriend and I are in danger of losing everything, including our home, because of a series of circumstances out of our control. But you might be able to help.

The Three Problems Needing Solving​

  1. I need a job. I’m a talented TypeScript, JavaScript, and C# coder with several years of Chief Technology Officer experience. I’m applying to a lot of places, but any help getting a job is appreciated.
  2. I need gender confirmation surgery. This should resolve itself soon. The delays to this complicate finding a job, though. We have a hospital where everything is squared away to take action at the next available opening.
  3. We need to save this property, which we are in danger of losing once the moratorium ends, given we are several months behind. This is the tricky one.

Back Housing Payment Help​

Further details about the situation are below, but, simply put, we need as much help getting on top of our housing payments as quickly as possible. Here are the ways to help:
Every last penny will go towards paying down our house bill.
We originally created a GoFundMe for this, but tonight learned the money will not disburse until August 2nd. If the balance is not paid in full by the 31st, serious legal action will be taken. All of these methods ensure payment can be made in time to help.
GoFundMe showing the estimated withdrawal date.

Overview of the Situation​

In August 2020, I was scheduled to finally get gender confirmation surgery, a procedure I have desperately needed for years. But the pandemic caused repeated delays.
My employer grew increasingly angry and made up a reason to fire me in February 2021. I can prove the reason is false — that I had not filed appropriate medical leave paperwork with MetLife — and am working with a great lawyer on contingency to sue for wrongful termination. This will bring in money eventually but not soon enough to help.
A GoFundMe we started last year raised enough to pay for the out-of-pocket expenses for surgery. Those funds are in the hands of the insurance company, and surgery will happen very soon.
The Georgia Department of Labor owes me many thousands of dollars in unemployment insurance, but a massive COVID-induced backlog of their identity verification system has gotten in the way. I’ve tried everything I can to get around it, but I don’t know when I will see that money.
On July 31st, the moratorium ends, and legal action will be taken to kick us out of our home. We are desperate to prevent this from happening.
I am a talented coder, and, if I can get through this crisis, I will definitely be able to get a good day job making more than enough to ensure Smol Farm stays afloat, regardless of the project’s income. A bright future is possible, but right now, I am scared and overwhelmed.

The donation marketing blitz continues with a dour proclamation.
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Wonder what happened.
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wouldn't ya know
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On the Mandy front...well, nothing! According to Thorne, she was trying to use both @fumeiji and @fumeijiii to split her personal and art accounts.
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[email protected] has deleted all of her tweets except this one:
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and @fumeijiii....

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So it appears that she effectively has no online presence as of now. Wonder how she's going to get commissions so she can help save the house???
 

Yellow Yam Scam

Devil get behind me, I'm loose, I'm free.
True & Honest Fan
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You didn't expect a day to go by without something suspicious happening in the Thorniverse, did you?

We begin with the usual whining.
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However - dog days are over?
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It appears that an "old friend" has "stepped up" and there is a "99%" chance that things are going to work out with the house. I actually have some interesting caps from when I went through Thorne's old tweets about how things seem to work out when people make promises to him, but I'll save those for another time. Remember - they needed to pay 20K by the end of the month.
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Surgery - paid. Bank account - empty. Job - none. Things are looking up for ol' Thorne.
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The rest of Thorne's tweets today are just political sperging, but there's something else strange going on in the Thorniverse.

Previously, Thorne told us that Mandy would be using two accounts - @fumeijiii and @fumeiji. However, she doesn't appear to be using either of those and is in fact using the locked account @mandymollusk. Thorne has made no mention of this so I suppose it's meant to be a secret. Fortunately, undercover kiwi agents have gained access to the account.
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And again, Mandy seems to have incurred Thorne's wrath. Unfortunately I didn't see these before Thorne deleted her message so we'll never know what Thorne had to say here. From the context it appears that Thorne accused to Mandy of saying something transphobic, causing Mandy do to her usual public groveling routine. The line "I want to keep living here. Right now I feel like I'm fucking up both of those" is a bit concerning IMO. (These tweets happened to get deleted literally moments after I capped them.)
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Positron

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And again, Mandy seems to have incurred Thorne's wrath.
Still, as of 45 minutes ago, Thorne still considers Mandy his girlfriend.
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There was yet another near-miss on the 22nd:
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Thorne wrote a Substack article about hip-hop and toxic masculinity (archive)
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It is okay to kill "fascists":
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(Archive of Substack article)
 

Cool Username

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god, that really is such bad writing. hilarious that the reddit dweebs called out thorney's self-obsession... and of course his service dog fumeiji was there to snarl and yap and then try to put all the blame for his failures on herself.

i know thorne is the abuser and fumeiji is the victim but i find her supine subservience to her troon master so disgusting. he is obviously a vile narcissist but his reign of terror over her couldn't happen if she wasn't into it. she's an enabler, and substantially contributes to his misbehaviors by encouraging, excusing and amplifying them... as well as setting an ungodly example of ciswoman submission to the sacred shemale.

thorne definitely hit the "mommy gf" jackpot with this deluded self-hating handmaiden... she's both the cringing beaten slave-spouse and the outraged psycho trash mom that attacks anyone who dares criticize her faultless golden angel child.
I couldn't agree more. That's why is so hard for me to sympathize with women like her.
 

lindsayfan

What am I but hot blood?
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Mandy didn't make the surgery Twitter Official so Throne bailed on it.
mandy you repulsive transphobe, why are you SO DETERMINED to sabotage poor thorne!!

neglecting to tweet about his dickchop constitutes violence. to any outside observer, it's as if thorne's eminently reasonable and sane requirements are the u.s. capitol building and mandy is rampaging through there with a confederate flag.

tbqh it's hard to read this thread sometimes because of the ceaseless tortures mandy selfishly chooses to inflict on her lesbian girlfriend. stay strong thorney!
 

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