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One time, I accidentally ate a bunch of nails
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Fair point, and I suppose I walked right into that one.

Still, I think the main reason why the Religious Right failed in its efforts compared to the SJW's has a lot more to do with the media landscape of the 2010's compared to that of the 1980's and 1990's. The MSM networks and studios are far more consolidated under a a small handful of massive corporations and the internet is similarly corporate as fuck, allowing for a far more stifling effect of any concerted censorship efforts.
Which was what the left warned about in the mid-eighties. Reagan's de-regulation of the media, ironically, ends up helping the left and hurting the right. I think that de-regulation was a massive mistake Reagan made, as bad as shit like going into Iraq was for Bush 2.
 

TaimuRadiu

Kaiserin
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Just a thought that would provide so much salt....

I wish Trump would start talking about removing term limits for President, and have a bunch of state governors in on it saying they'd be up for such an amendment.
Legally, anyone can serve in the office of President for 10 years.

Just sayin. Don't we all want 1 and 1/2 terms of Mike "Electric" Pence?
 
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Jarolleon

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Gabbard's gonna go third party at this rate and peel off every last moderate still willing to vote Democrat. Good jerb on yet again helping Trump get elected, Hill and Billy.
This happened in Canada with the Conservatives and Maxime Bernier. He ended up getting 2% of the vote, uniformly distributed. As if the only people who vote for splitters are those who fall down crazy internet rabbit holes and start watching Sargon.
 

Iwasamwillbe

King of Israel and Judah, King of the Jews
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It may not call itself one and there may not be any deity that is worshipped
Oh but there is. It's called The Right Side of History™, and it's prophets include such luminaries as (in no particular order) Karl Marx, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, John Maynard Keynes, and Barack Hussein Obama.
 

CheezzyMach

Hulkamania Brother!
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You are all extremely optimistic in thinking the so-called progressive left is going to fall like the religious right.

The religious right never had control of any engine that would disseminate and perpetuate their continued existence, in this case the schools and colleges. Espousing its stances is intimately tied to success in several employment fields. The religious right did not have significant unironic media backing or the force of law granted by court packing from Obama.

The only comparison was their ability to censor. However, I don't think they had anything comparative to cancel culture.
Why wouldn't it? Hippie culture and the New Left fell out of fashion by the late 70s despite Academia breathing that shit.

The Religious Right had the ear of the mainstream Conservative party in America for 30 years and defacto control of the culture in the 1980s it wasn't until around the mid 90s that serious pushback against them in the media began I don't know why some of you keep trying to revise history to make them out to have been completely powerless.

They were every bit as dogmatic as SJWs and just like with SJWs companies bent the knee and sanitized content to appease them.
 

Flexo

serial #3370318
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>Implying that the Millennials don't have their own warped version of religion

Let's be real here, Social Justice/Identity Politics pretty much IS the main religion of the Millennials. It may not call itself one and there may not be any deity that is worshipped, but it's got its own sense of sacred rules that cannot be violated and even a warped form of original sin.

The religion of the Boomer moral guardians was often a conservative form of Christianity while the religion of the Millennial moral guardians is a disgusting melange of postmodernism, identity politics, anarchism, communism, and far-left radicalism
Now you're starting to get it. To quote a wiser man:
When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.
G.K. Chesterton

Organized religion was rejected and SJWs are what fills in the void. Just because the SJW cult will be rejected, doesn't mean they won't cobble together something more exceptional or exceptional.

"Also Hillary Clinton will ride into the White House on a unicorn and sign an executive order banishing all Russians and their bots to the Shadow Realm."
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Jigglyjogglers

The Doctor Bashir guy
True & Honest Fan
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This happened in Canada with the Conservatives and Maxime Bernier. He ended up getting 2% of the vote, uniformly distributed. As if the only people who vote for splitters are those who fall down crazy internet rabbit holes and start watching Sargon.
Yes, but America is a real country so what happens in Canada isn't really relevant. We have actual precedent for our actual country that says third party runs can in fact siphon enough of the vote to be an influence. They don't usually but that's because normally the Big Two tend to pretend those third party candidates don't even exist. By attacking Gabbard, the DNC and Clinton have actually elevated her considerably and given her a lot more visibility... just like they did to Trump, proving they haven't learned a damn thing.
 

Jarolleon

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Yeah, but that also means your opponent won't be seen as a monster.... and that's the whole point.

Harsh language can make anything seem sinister.... it's a trick lawyers and yellow journalists have known forever:

"Mr Towin Karz, perhaps you'd like to explain why you have embarked on your current decades-long crusade to stay employed? Our records show you have made a concerted and deliberate attempt, since 1994, to be in the gainful employment of not one, but, in fact, several private businesses. This behavior certainly shows a clear pattern of repeatedly engaging in self-enriching behavior, and raises a lot of questions about you. One must wonder if you are motivated by anything good, or just the MONEY?"



Literally "A coup is okay when we do it"

If you are so certain you have the best wishes of the people in mind, then why do you have to keep meeting in dark alleys to make plans about what to do with them?

Or perhaps this exchange from John Frankenheimer's Seven Days in May is more apt:

" I [sic] haven't the slightest interest in my own glorification. But I do have an abiding interest in the survival of this country."

" Then, by God, run for office. You have such a fervent, passionate, evangelical faith in this country - Why in the name of God don't you have any faith in the system of government you're so hell-bent to protect? "
Maybe they literally believe that they're resisting a fascist regime, so they must plot covertly to avoid being sabotaged by Drumpf and his goons.
 
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a terminal posture

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The Religious Right had the ear of the mainstream Conservative party in America for 30 years and defacto control of the culture in the 1980s it wasn't until around the mid 90s that serious pushback against them in the media began I don't know why some of you keep trying to revise history to make them out to have been completely powerless.

They were every bit as dogmatic as SJWs and just like with SJWs companies bent the knee and sanitized content to appease them.
The Religious Right had de facto control of jack shit. What concessions did they get from companies? Explicit lyrics warning labels? A couple of pornographers charged with obscenity? Well at least they did get abortion banned (lolno). The RR was a total rearguard action that never amounted to more than sticking a finger in a dyke and was quickly coopted by the Republican party. They did nothing to stop the inexorable drift of leftist degeneracy. And 'evangelicals' today? Gayer than average liberal from 1985.
 

heyitsmike

The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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I wish Trump would start talking about removing term limits for President, and have a bunch of state governors in on it saying they'd be up for such an amendment.
If Trump wins 38 states, which I think is possible if the Dems put up Pocahontas, that's enough for a ratifying convention to amend the Constitution.

If you like your President, you can keep your President.

Maybe they literally believe that they're resisting a fascist regime, so they must plot covertly to avoid being sabotaged by Drumpf and his goons.
I hope if we every truly do face a fascist regime that they are more effective than they are now.
 

Ghostse

Waffle SS Untermenchenfurher
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Just a thought that would provide so much salt....

I wish Trump would start talking about removing term limits for President, and have a bunch of state governors in on it saying they'd be up for such an amendment.
The Salt would be amazing, but this would be pissing your pants in the snow: short term comfort, long term problems.

George Washington recognized that you problems when one person has a throttle on power for two long:
The first problem is, naturally, if you have a bad leader he will try to stay in power and shit things up.
The second problem is, less obvious: if you get a GOOD leader in place, people and systems become dependent on their good leader.

Byzantium, Hungary, to a degree the Ottomans, the Crusader Kingdoms, and someone else I'm forgetting - all cultures George Washington would have learned about as an educated elite - had an issue where the empire was in a period of decline and things were going bad, until an Energetic, Charismatic, Competent and Just leader rose to power and for his lifetime rule (and in some cases, the rule of his Son) everything got better as this guy reformed everything and turned the ship around. The problem was nothing really got fixed, the Empire came to depend on a very competent ruler, and as soon as someone less competent was on the throne, things turned to shit quicker than before and often got much, much worse than before the competent ruler took charge.

I've forgotten some of the details but I believe it was Byzantium particularly had a problem where to deal with rebellion & insurection they gave the Emperor - effectively - carte blanche to imprison and strip lands and titles from anyone in their lands regardless of station. The Emperor they gave it to used it very sparingly against only very deserving targets, to bypass the slow courts and remove nobles who were more concerned about their own station than the health of the empire. His son followed the father's example, but the next guy in line (who I think was a cousin or something) proceeded to start going full Stalin, purging anyone he thought was against him.
Instead of actually fixing the systemic problems in the empire (reforming the law to deal with rebellious nobles) they implemented a quick fix (granting wide, unchecked powers to the executive) - because the guy they gave them to would never abuse them, they never bothered putting limits, checks, or overrides in place, this came back later to bite them.


Term limits and scheduled regieme change not only limit the harm of bad rulers (Obama) but keep the nation from becoming too dependent on specific GOOD ones.

It also ensures (or, well, used to ensure) that the group in charge wouldn't unilaterally and high-handedly shit on their opponents, since they had to be mindful of the fact that their turn at being the minority party was sure to come.
 

Abyssal Bulwark

In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming
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Hey who wants to pick apart this Rational Wiki classic?

RationalWiki itself is a hyper-left SJW sewage pit; they try to make right-leaning people and concepts look as bad as possible while promoting social justice and left wing politicians as much as possible. To be honest, the only things I really like from there are their articles debunking conspiracy theories.
 

Super-Chevy454

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RationalWiki itself is a hyper-left SJW sewage pit; they try to make right-leaning people and concepts look as bad as possible while promoting social justice and left wing politicians as much as possible. To be honest, the only things I really like from there are their articles debunking conspiracy theories.
And Rationalwiki got its own thread.
 

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