War US to let Turkish forces move into Syria, dumping Kurdish allies - White House reveals policy shift, which follows conversation between Trump and Erdoğan

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Your Weird Fetish

Intersectional fetishist
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You're assuming that the laws of biological evolution have something to do with cultural evolution, which is quite an assumption to make. English has persisted because it was/is the language of the two major empires of the past two hundred years, and because it has become so omnipresent due to the spread of internet. It's also the de facto language of science and technological research, which further cements it's position.
Also he's presuming the biological evolution works in a way that it doesn't.
 

BONE_Buddy

That Defense Sperg.
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SDF has supposedly completed a general withdrawal from Ras al-Ayn city. Make of that what you will.

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ICametoLurk

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President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is pushing a radical solution — resettling refugees in a swath of Syrian territory controlled by the United States and its Kurdish allies. If that does not happen, he is threatening to send a flood of Syrian migrants to Europe.

GAZIANTEP, Turkey — Turkey, which for eight years has welcomed millions of Syrian refugees, has reversed course, forcing thousands to leave its major cities in recent weeks and ferrying many of them to its border with Syria in white buses and police vans.

Erdogan has long demanded a buffer zone along Turkey’s border with Syria to keep out Kurdish forces, whom he considers a security threat.

But he has repackaged the idea for the zone as a refuge for Syrians fleeing the war — pushing it as resentment against Syrians in Turkey has increased, and a Syrian and Russian offensive in Syria has sent hundreds of thousands more refugees fleeing toward the Turkish border.

“Our goal is to settle at least one million Syrian brothers and sisters in our country in this safe zone,” Erdogan told leaders of his Justice and Development Party in Ankara on Thursday. “If needed, with support from our friends, we can build new cities there and make it habitable for our Syrian siblings.”

None of the other powers involved in the war in Syria has wholly agreed to the idea.

The European Union has given Turkey about $6.7 billion since 2015 to help control the flow of migrants. But Turkey, which has given sanctuary to 3.6 million Syrians, says the migrant problem is growing exponentially.

That sure does sound familiar. ..
 

BONE_Buddy

That Defense Sperg.
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Western Iraq more dangerous than Northeast Syria? Really now.

Who is invading Western Iraq? What civil war is contained in Western Iraq? I will tell you what is there, a small pocket of (relatively ineffectual) ISIS in the middle of the desert.

What was the point of being in Syria in the first place? defeating ISIS. Period. End.

So we are going to place troops into a real country that is a real ally, to defeat a pocket if ISIS that as of yet still hasn't been quashed.

Additionally this is a temporary deployment. We will use these forces to remove the territorial control of ISIS in that area, and then remove our forces from that area.


If we were stationing these troops in Southeast Iraq (Iran back proxies, ME style riots, the oilfields, etc.), these knuckleheads might have the beginnings of an actual point. But as it stands, no.
 

Frank_Jaeger

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Here we see an example of a "True American Conservative Patriot™" note the complete lack of morals, the towing the line to support zion don, the who gives a fuck if America becomes a third world nation attitude, the well learned Whataboutism championed by russaboo shills, and perpetual victim complex that the whole world is against America.
 

Jet Fuel Johnny

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Lol so much for bringing the troops home. Who's the chickenhawk now?
You understand such things as debriefings, medical checks, turning in equipment and ammunition, finding out what SOCOM wants to do with them and if they're going to be tasked with another JSOC mission or return to the US for snake eater reasons, right?

Holy shit, you and yours will grab at any "ORANGE MAN BAD!" won't you?

"THEY REMOVED THE SPECIAL FORCES FROM A WAR ZONE TO ANOTHER WAR ZONE WHERE THEN THEY MAGICALLY VANISHED! ORANGE MAN BAD!"

Holy shit, it's hard not to think of you as either a major troll or just as fucking ignorant and maliciously misleading as your two quoted mouthpieces up there.
 

millais

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That Kurdish protest was weak af. Only like 6 people, and none of them even tried to lie down in the road. And stoning an MRAP with potatoes is not even going to scratch the paint.

If the Syrian Kurds were that upset, they would have been able to completely block the road with bodies and made a real spectacle out of it.
 

GnomeofDoc

What? I like weird old guns.
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Does anyone know the condition of the Turkish backed fighters equipment?

It appears to be mainly Soviet/Russian small arms and anti-tank weapons. The bog standard Toyota Tacoma with what ever the fuck they can bolt/tape onto it. But are they being supplied with tanks and IFVs from Turkey? Or is the Turkish army providing their own ground power in support while the masses run in and kill each other?
 
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Ghostse

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You understand such things as debriefings, medical checks, turning in equipment and ammunition, finding out what SOCOM wants to do with them and if they're going to be tasked with another JSOC mission or return to the US for snake eater reasons, right?

Holy shit, you and yours will grab at any "ORANGE MAN BAD!" won't you?

"THEY REMOVED THE SPECIAL FORCES FROM A WAR ZONE TO ANOTHER WAR ZONE WHERE THEN THEY MAGICALLY VANISHED! ORANGE MAN BAD!"

Holy shit, it's hard not to think of you as either a major troll or just as fucking ignorant and maliciously misleading as your two quoted mouthpieces up there.
Shit I'll just take "What is keeping a military presence near by to keep Turkey from going full ethnic cleansing For 800, Alex"
 
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GnomeofDoc

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Assad on this:

“We warned them publicly & in secret talks not to bet on America but they didn’t listen. After all the bravado we heard ...that we will fight etc, #Turkey was able to occupy all their areas in mere four days. Anyway am not going to play blame game now”

https://twitter.com/EHSANI22/status/1186630000944001024
That is a hell of a sick burn right there. Dude knows he can shit all over them as he is their only hope to stop a roach infestation killing them all.
 
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